New pants please!

[Virago]

The point that he tries to get across is that we don't do ourselves any favours by coming to harm to often, that is taken on board (hence why I asked what could I do better next time)...... His delivery sucks, did he offer anything constructive to this thread. No.

So why did you specifically single him out in the first post? Was that constructive?

You reap what you sow...

[Oakie]

So why did you specifically single him out in the first post? Was that constructive?

You reap what you sow...

Turned out that Goonrs comment was a pretty good call though. Telling someone to "improve" is like asking a mechanic why your bike doesn't accelerate cleanly and all he says is "fix it". All Goonr wanted some some constructive advice.

[YellowDog]

So why did you specifically single him out in the first post? Was that constructive?

You reap what you sow...

Like I said, putting posters on the defensive in fear of the 'Attack of the Katman' is not a good thing.

The first post of this thread is a clear example.

[Virago]

Turned out that Goonrs comment was a pretty good call though. Telling someone to "improve" is like asking a mechanic why your bike doesn't accelerate cleanly and all he says is "fix it". All Goonr wanted some some constructive advice.

So he started it with some non-constructive and completely unnecessary critisism? By his own hand, he made this a Katman thread.

Still, one way or another, Katman's message does get through...

[sinfull]

So he started it with some non-constructive and completely unnecessary critisism? By his own hand, he made this a Katman thread.

Still, one way or another, Katman's message does get through...

Exacary !
And in no way did katman rip into the OP he simply said improve,

The OP took responsibility for his mistake, so why would Katman critisize !

But if the first post said "i don't want you commenting sinfull", i'd be in, balls and all !

[Oakie]

I'm sure Goonr would have welcomed a useful post from Katman...one that offered practical advice. Goonr obviously created the thread in the desire to 'improve'. The option was there for Katman to give Goonr the benefit of his experience as other more helpful posters have done but for someone who trumpets the safety message here whenever he gets the opportunity - to merely offer "improve" is just a bit annoying. A bit of substance rather than a smart-arse comment would have been more appropriate from him.

The fact that Goonr pre-empted Katman's reponse speaks more about Katman than it does of Goonr.

[Owl]

But if the first post said "i don't want you commenting sinfull", i'd be in, balls and all !

That's nearly a reason just to start a thread!

As for Katman's first post, I thought it was very civil. Must be that Xmas spirit!

[jeffs]

The last 10 posts in this thread have been Katman related posts.

This person is asking HOW DO I DO IT BETTER ?

Please stop fixating on katman ( god i'm doing at well )

and move on.

I'm sure Katman would rather the poster got advise, than wasted time talking about Katman. ( probably ).

Katman has given him input " Improve", now the rest of you, expand on Katmans input and tell him how.

[Oakie]

As for Katman's first post, I thought it was very civil. Must be that Xmas spirit!

Yes, I must admit, it was at least civil.
Jeez, I don't know why this has got me so wound up. I think I must need a ride. (It's been three days ... unless you count pillioning the grandaughter around the section on the Bandit on Xmas day ... even made her wear her 'Dora the Explorer' bike helmet)

[GOONR]

.........

but was unfortunately started in a defensive manner .......

Maybe I could have started the thread better and not on the defensive, my mistake, apologies.

[Maha]

Tora! Tora! Tora!

[Katman]

Group hug.

[jeffs]

Group hug.

God you have become soft

[KiWiP]

I'm not an experienced motorcycle rider but I did teach defensive driving in the UK a few years back and one of the main things to consider is to increase your safe options.

1. Always keep a safe gap ahead of you. If someone nips in just increase your gap behind the 'infiltrator' at the next set of lights/slow traffic you will pass them anyway. If someone is crowding you there is little you can do. They probably are unaware of their distance to you. It is estimated that at least 30% of drivers have undiagnosed imperfect eyesight. If you have space to brake then they have time to react.

2. Make yourself 'BIG' i.e. do not push yourself into the shoulder, it will encourage others to try to slip past you or worse ignore you, sit centre/right of lane. Sit upright so you have a full view and your follower will have a bigger target . This also increases your exit options, to the left onto the shoulder, to the right into the gap vacated by the offender or close into the safe space you have reserved for yourself.

3. Tap the brakes occasionally, it flashes the lights and takes the radio listeners out of their delirium (hopefully).

4. If you have a completely aggressive tosser targeting you, pull over let them go their way. They will die of an embolism before lunchtime (hopefully).

Right I've just realised that most of this has been said but it's taken me half an hour to type so stuff it I'm posting any way.

Glad you survived Goonr even if you are as I suspect a 'Gooner' I'm forever blowing bubbles