Love?

**Big Dave** · 4th May 2005, 20:00

Originally Posted by gav

Well you guys obviously do....

And whats with the $3.00 on BikeMart? Can I buy it seperately? Can I just pay $7 for KR mag and you keep that bit? Bought the mag today, apart from the Andrew Stroud at PI and the Jimmy Steadman SS750 nothing much of interest really....Why do you think you nearly $3.00 an issue more than Aussie Motorcycle News, which gets sent from Aus (funnily enough) and is nearly 30% cheaper? Are you going to continue sealing the issue in a bag? Its not that I dont buy m/c mags either, I have a magazine shop that keeps for me Aussie M/C news, Fast Bikes, Superbikes and Performance Bikes and sometimes I might buy the T.W.O or the new Aussie one Rapid. If its sealed and I can't flick through to see if theirs anything of interest then I guess I wont be reading it anymore....

Pass. I'm the associate art director. I can answer questions on design and contributions.

**Sensei** · 4th May 2005, 20:44

Well sent away mine hope to see it one day soon

**gav** · 4th May 2005, 22:10

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Pass. I'm the associate art director. I can answer questions on design and contributions.

So you do the layout? Why is coverage of the road racing stuff still in the BikeMart, still on the cheap crap paper? Why dont we get this stuff in glossy and colour? The Dirt Guide is a good idea but where do you buy the stuff from? Is the list of dealers on the back cover applicable to the whole catalogue or just the ad on the rear page? Are you going to do a similiar catalogue for street bike stuff?

**Big Dave** · 4th May 2005, 22:44

>>So you do the layout? <<

Mate, I'm a freelancer, I designed the templates for the layout. The staff designer puts the content in 'em.

>>Why is coverage of the road racing stuff still in the BikeMart, <<

Publisher's call.

>>still on the cheap crap paper? <<
Why dont we get this stuff in glossy and colour? <<

It's a newspaper - it's on newsprint. But it will be improved shortly. (plan anyway)
I'm also confident we'll 'bed the design in' over the next issue, there will be more new, regular competition features in the next KR. Harry did a layout on Rossi's bike today. It looks sh*t hot.

>>The Dirt Guide is a good idea but where do you buy the stuff from?
Is the list of dealers on the back cover applicable to the whole catalogue or just the ad on the rear page? Are you going to do a similiar catalogue for street bike stuff?<<

That publication was independently produced - and I agree - my comment was 'nicely done, but where's the call to action, where do I buy it?' - it took the Hippy to spot the list at the back
If it was me i'd do road as well, but tis nuffink to do with me.

and thank you for your comments.

**Big Dave** · 4th May 2005, 22:52

Originally Posted by Sensei 509

Well sent away mine hope to see it one day soon

Nice work - I'll have a squiz next time i'm over there.

**Biff** · 4th May 2005, 23:16

I always throw out Bike Mart as soon as I buy KR.

If I wanted to buy a bike I'd buy Bike Mart on its own.

I say dump it.

Lurve the new format.

**gav** · 4th May 2005, 23:22

But can you buy it on its own? Would a street bike mag sell on its own here in NZ? Do you or have they (Kiwirider) tried selling in Oz? If AMCN can sell here why can't a NZ mag sell in Oz?

**Big Dave** · 4th May 2005, 23:52

Originally Posted by gav

But can you buy it on its own? Would a street bike mag sell on its own here in NZ? Do you or have they (Kiwirider) tried selling in Oz? If AMCN can sell here why can't a NZ mag sell in Oz?

kiwi rider hat OFF.

I really hope we can sell the mag into Aus. My mates back home will be blown away - 'motorcycle tester! - fuck well off' I can hear Rusty say. And then I might also be able to tell that minority of ignorant bastards who can't get past the sheep shagger shit exactly how good the riding is and the vast majority of people I've met are. I would find that rewarding.

kiwi rider cap back ON.
You'll have to wait and see.

**chris** · 5th May 2005, 08:36

Originally Posted by gav

So you do the layout? Why is coverage of the road racing stuff still in the BikeMart, still on the cheap crap paper? Why dont we get this stuff in glossy and colour? The Dirt Guide is a good idea but where do you buy the stuff from? Is the list of dealers on the back cover applicable to the whole catalogue or just the ad on the rear page? Are you going to do a similiar catalogue for street bike stuff?

We would love to print Bikemart on glossy paper but sales simply do not justify it. It is not that nobody buys the mag, they do, but with a population of 4 million our market is limited. Australian mags have a poulation of about 20 million to target.
It is the same reason that some things are cheaper in Oz than they are here, there are more people buying them. If you would like to pay $15 for KR and $7 for Bikemart we could afford the fancy paper, but isn't it more to do with what is inside the mag?? :unsure:

Originally Posted by gav

Are you going to do a similiar catalogue for street bike stuff?

It was inserted in KR a few months ago.

**Motu** · 5th May 2005, 09:28

Bike Mart is a throw away,although I still have the Jan 1999 copy with the add for the XLV750 I bought,I don't go back through the years looking for bikes for sale....but I do like my back copies of KR.

**Beemer** · 5th May 2005, 10:10

Has anyone else noticed that the Dirt Guide section on Yamahas (page 58) has all the models missing - mmn, that makes it REALLY helpful! Did you guys get it cheap/free because of this omission?

Might get my camera out and then write a few words on the latest addition to the garage - KR was kind enough to give me a few pages when I bought the CS back in 2002 so here's hoping they'd like an article on the Goose. Mind you, the one on the CS was PAID - sounds like they're looking for freebies for this new series! Correct me if I'm wrong...

**chris** · 5th May 2005, 10:28

Originally Posted by Beemer

Has anyone else noticed that the Dirt Guide section on Yamahas (page 58) has all the models missing - mmn, that makes it REALLY helpful! Did you guys get it cheap/free because of this omission?

We have nothing to do with the production of the Dirt Guide. It is supplied to our mailers who insert it into the mag.