Who's next: Employers (Hospitality & Tourism)

[nosebleed]

So rather than saying 'I told you so' should we not be getting together and meeting with the 'important people' of hospitality and tourism and start working together?

Sure. But only after a few "we told youse so" 's.

[MadDuck]

Anyway, I bet the "Who's Next" are the boaties. Watch this space.

...interesting thought. It could be quite easily achieved.

[swbarnett]

... it would appear that ACC is seen as too hard to manage and not something any government should be involved in.

And yet in 2007 a Price Waterhouse audit said that the NZ ACC scheme was a model of efficiency when compared to other schemes internationaly.

[swbarnett]

Um...you are being deliberately ironic. Aren't you?

No. ACC is designed so that all pay for the mishaps of the few and we all benifit. Just like a good old barn raising in Amish communities.

[MSTRS:Me]

No. ACC is designed so that all pay for the mishaps of the few and we all benifit. Just like a good old barn raising in Amish communities.

That is so. 'Everyone' pays the same. And no targetted levies at various user sub-groups.
But that is what we have now. And why your comment is so ironic.

[saxet]

That is so. 'Everyone' pays the same. And no targetted levies at various user sub-groups.
But that is what we have now. And why your comment is so ironic.

How true...the irony started as soon as various work catagories were charged differently to others.
"If I may put forward a slice of my own personal philosaphy" I'm sick to death of living in a society where anyone holding even a trace power cannot be trusted!

[ukusa]

So when will they target Sport? The big ones like rugby & netball.
Bet they won't do it prior to the RWC next year, coz the Govt has invested heavily in that, maybe the year after?

[geoffm]

...interesting thought. It could be quite easily achieved.

I could be wrong, but boat accidents are usually fatilities - not long term injuries. ACC doesn't care about fatilities - the are cheap. At most there is one claim and it is over with. injuries and care cost money.

[p.dath]

Basic problem is that ACC cover overseas tourists here for all accidents. someone has to pay for it.

Are you sure about this? I was under the impression that tourists were NOT covered.

[cave weta]

Are you sure about this? I was under the impression that tourists were NOT covered.

After hearing people who know more about this on the TV news, discuss it -that is what I understand.

[PrincessBandit]

Cut and pasted from stuff's homepage this morning:


"More than 700 people have been cut from ACC's long-term client list in six months as the organisation moves to slash costs.

ACC hopes to save about $1 billion by 2013.......

Those being targeted have "high-cost claims" of more than $600 a week.

ACC has also brought in 67 extra case managers for long-term clients to boost staff numbers to 135.

The unit's focus includes scheme-liability management, dealing with non-compliant clients, and increasing clients' personal responsibility.

A 2007 study on people removed from the ACC scheme showed 46 per cent were not working and nearly one quarter were getting the unemployment benefit.

ACC long-term claims project leader Phil Riley said most would "return to independence without a job".

Riley said the recover independence unit was set up in response to increasing claims and costs.

Staff were working with the 7500 claimants nationally who had been receiving weekly compensation for more than 2 1/2 years.....

The strategy paper, written in February last year, said if current growth rates continued, a further $1b would be added to ACC's liability by June 2009.

The focus on long-term clients would knock $200m off the scheme's liability by June this year, and $900m by 2013 if case managers removed 12 claimants every year. If they managed to remove 20 clients a year, $1.4b would be saved.

The document said there had been a shift in ACC's ideological role from a "social insurer" to an "insurer".

"The emphasis over the past few years has been on improving trust and confidence, access and customer focus," it said.

"There is a need now to balance this with an increased focus on scheme liability, cost containment and value for money – while still achieving quality outcomes for clients."

Those being removed from ACC help included clients who were deemed fit to work a 35-hour week, or whose health problems were not injury-related.

Clients could be deemed "non-compliant" by case managers if they refused to do work programmes."

[PrincessBandit]

Again, public statement of the ideological position of ACC being a "social insurer" being altered to that of "insurer".

[bogan]

also all this talk of removing long term claimants sounds to me like they are going to get a bit shafted with care and recovery to save some money, I'm hoping not, but the way ACC is now being run I wouldn't be surprised.

[mashman]

Again, public statement of the ideological position of ACC being a "social insurer" being altered to that of "insurer".

Probably explains why "The emphasis over the past few years has been on improving trust and confidence, access and customer focus"... so we're customers now... i find that kinda cheeky considering they're using OUR money! and why haven't they shifted the focus towards providing a service, the service that ACC was setup to provide... I suppose you have to change the language to make the scheme more attractive to potential buyers...

[munster]

Anyway, I bet the "Who's Next" are the boaties. Watch this space.

Fucken' better not be, I've been a boatie all my life and only had one minor claim for the winch handle getting away on me at Kawakawa and splitting my right middle knuckle to the bone.

No claims for all the waterskiing, biscuiting, fishing, wakeboarding that we've done. Taught countless people to ski with no issues.

So when will they target Sport? The big ones like rugby & netball.
Bet they won't do it prior to the RWC next year, coz the Govt has invested heavily in that, maybe the year after?

How true! Wanker Politicians. I've had enough of 'em. Billy Connolly said it right "the desire to be a politician should bar you from life from ever being one"