CRF250R vs CRF450X

[Mr. Rock]

Got a bit of an issue I hope someone can help me out.

Currently I have a CRF250R (07) but it's a bit to service hungry for my wallet.. Was thinking of jumping on a 450X of about the same age (05) because if I researched properly they should be cheaper to run than a R (correct me if I'm wrong).

I have a bit of riding time under my belt on the 250R how much more power etc am I looking to get if I went to a 450x?

[cheese]

much heavier, you'd get much more tired hauling it through the track. I'd suggest learn how to service the bike you have.

[Mr. Rock]

I have taken a bit of the engine apart but the hondas seem to have annoying security bolts and I have not been able to find a service manual for the 250R :-(

[Mr. Rock]

I'm not overly concerned about it being heavier. More concerned about how manageable it will be..

[barty5]

no one can A 450 is a lot heaver and being a x willl be heaver again the power will be more mellow than the R. Take a bit to get use to and can ba hard work it the tight stuff but once you get use to it they are great i love my 450

[Mr. Rock]

Guess what I'm trying to ask is.. How much more power would the 450 have and how would it deliver it compared to the 250?

[Rupe]

Guess what I'm trying to ask is.. How much more power would the 450 have and how would it deliver it compared to the 250?

why don't you go to one of the maramarua rides they have 450x demos, had a sit on one and it felt it was made of lead standing still.

[B0000M]

the 450 has a whole lot more power overall than the 250, but 450R's feel more heavy and are more heavy than a 250R, and then X models are another 20kg heavier again... so you'd be going up by about 30kg, plus the added inertia weight, the whole thing would just feel HEAVY

mechanicly the engines are exactly the same, however the X models have a less aggressive cam, ignition maps, jetting, exaust, heavier flywheel, heavier casings, side stand, battery, starter.. etc etc. so maintenance wise they actually require the same care.

the reason honda stipulates different maintenance schedules is mostly because of how the 2 models are most likely to be ridden. the R models are made as a race bike, and therefore the maintenance schedules are spaced out as if the bike were ridden like a race bike. the X models being aimed at a trail market, which generally means a lot more relaxed riding style, everything takes less of a hammering and therfore doesnt need as much attention.

im not sure what you are referring to with 'security bolts' ?? ive had a few apart and am yet to find anything that joe average couldnt take apart

unless you're a gun rider, or weigh over 100kg, i wouldnt reccommend a 450 to anyone as a trail bike, and in a lot of cases as a mx bike either.

keep in mind also with a 450 theres a stronger pulse on the power, so chains, sprockets and tyres will last even less time = more maintenance

[CRF119]

If you can ride your 250 near the limit for a whole trail loop or race make the jump to the 450. Or if you are just a heavy person say 90kg upward just go to the 450.

I went from my 02 CR125 to my 08CRF450R no problem. (Im only a light weight to)

There are no safty bolts on the Hondas not sure what you are on about there.

Maybe head towards a KTM 2 stroke if you want esier maintainence. (probobly not cheaper)

The money you save on engine parts with the 450 you will spend on chain, sprokets, fuel and tyres. Every 50 hours i spend $300 on the best qulity chain and sprokets.

[barty5]

you running xring chain cause i get way more hrs per chain than that

[IIIRII]

Theres almost exactly 7kg difference between a 250 4t enduro (105 av) and a 450 4t enduro (112 av) regardless of what manufacturer
And about 12kg between a 250 4tmx and a 450 4t enduro (100/112)
So its about 12 kg heavier.

[Mr. Rock]

Right.. So maybe the jump to a 450 doesn't sound like the best idea.. If I'm only trail riding the 250 do you think I could service less? And the security bolts I found wer in the carb like a star with a bit in the middle instead of a Phillips screw (I personally didn't have anything to undo it with guessed it was Honda specific).

[B0000M]

kerb weight of a crf450x is 128kg
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/08sep...04_crf450x.htm

kerb weight of crf250r is 103kg
http://www.otorohonda.co.nz/new_bike...cross/crf250r/

[Mr. Rock]

Well when I say doesn't sound like the best idea I mean kinda doesn't sound like I'll save money.. Any ideas on how to make this riding more affordable? Maybe a 250x? Tho I am hessitant I'll get bored with less power than my r..

[Pornstar]

I just got an exc 250 2t, and can see the pluses already, no clutch cable to lube, no linkages to grease, can do a top end with one arm tied behind your back. Also light and managable power. never flames out. my last scoot was a CRF 450, loved it, but yea, the costs of a 450 were noticeable, tyre eaters.