Rear view camera?

**bogan** · 12th January 2010, 10:22

Starting design on a project to replace both the instrument cluster, and rear view mirrors on my bros with a custom set of gauges surrounding a screen hooked up to a camera near the number plate. Would change from the cog and cable type speedo/odo to a digital one with trip computer, but maintain the analogue needle gauge look, do same for rev counter. Program in a fuel light to work in conjunction with the trip computer and perhaps some other fancy bits. Would make it waterproof, and fucking hard to steal!

Looked on the ltsa site and it meets all the regulation except being a mirror, ie the mirror must offer a good veiw of the ..... assuming they just mean mirror as in device that looks to rear I'll be able to take off my mirrors making the bike look much nicer.

Idea is to design all the bits so they can be easily moved around to different configurations to be put in any type of bike and offer exactly the same functionality. Would anyone here be interested in such a product? if so what sort of price range?

**CookMySock** · 12th January 2010, 11:24

Originally Posted by bogan

camera near the number plate.

It'll get goo all over it. And whats behind be isn't going to be for very long.

Steve

**bogan** · 12th January 2010, 11:31

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

It'll get goo all over it. And whats behind be isn't going to be for very long.

Steve

yeh may have to make up a clear plastic cover for it, and put it out of most of the goo range. I know the hyosungs get overtaken very quickly

, but its a streaming vid camera, so itll show whatever is behind you, no matter how long that may be!

**Rev DJ** · 12th January 2010, 11:36

I have a rear camera set-up on my Duc. Works really well and is needed as the mirrors are next to useless! I used a small LCD screen and a Sony 560 camera - brilliant! DJ

**one fast tl1ooo** · 12th January 2010, 11:36

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

It'll get goo all over it. And whats behind be isn't going to be for very long.

Steve

It wont be goo, It will be oil and bit of ya bike.

But you are rite what is behind you wont be there for long..

as it will pass you real fast

**NZsarge** · 12th January 2010, 11:41

No reason I can see why this won't work, well in theory at least, be interesting to check it out once you're done.

**bogan** · 12th January 2010, 11:43

Originally Posted by Rev DJ

I have a rear camera set-up on my Duc. Works really well and is needed as the mirrors are next to useless! I used a small LCD screen and a Sony 560 camera - brilliant! DJ

you ever tried getting a WOF with the mirrors taken off then? Can you remember what model screen it is? as getting one that works well in sunlight may be an issue.

**magicmonkey** · 12th January 2010, 17:38

I'd be concerned about the resolution on the screen and image quality from the camera with something like this. If either of them are crappy then the project wouldn't work and a good quality camera/screen could cost one hell of a lot!

**george formby** · 12th January 2010, 17:58

Might be better than mirrors at night but I have scant faith in electrotrickery & would be paranoid that it would conk out. I don't like electric windows in cars even, after a 60 mile drive in snow with the drivers window stuck open. I would like to see you get it done though. The future beckons.

**quickbuck** · 12th January 2010, 18:11

You have missed out the option "What is behinda me doesa not matta"....

Resolution may well be a problem... but then your mirrors are useless when the sun is directly behind you, and low enough too....

Sounds inovative enough... Then just neet to make it all HUD in your helmet... Actually, no. There are times when I really don't care about what is on the dash... I just want to ride the road.

**p.dath** · 12th January 2010, 18:12

Might be slightly interested in an infared camera to see further at night time; but to be honest, I like to have the instrument cluster already on my bike. It's simple. It works.

Mirrors don't tend to break down. They don't need power. They can fog up (are you going to put the camera and LCD display into special environmental enclosures to precent them fogging up)?

I think you have have come up with a solution to a problem that does not exist.

**bogan** · 12th January 2010, 18:32

Originally Posted by p.dath

Might be slightly interested in an infared camera to see further at night time; but to be honest, I like to have the instrument cluster already on my bike. It's simple. It works.

Mirrors don't tend to break down. They don't need power. They can fog up (are you going to put the camera and LCD display into special environmental enclosures to precent them fogging up)?

I think you have have come up with a solution to a problem that does not exist.

ah, sorry, I should have explained that Im an engineer, half of what we do is come up with solutions to problems that dont exist! But i do have issues with the mirrors atm, the focus on my shoulders as much as the road, they are quite far out of they way to do quick head check (instrument cluster is a lot easier), and i think it'd look better if i was able to get rid of the mirrors.

Good point about the fogging, will put some though into that.

Been googling for suitable screens, pretty tricky finding a suitable one, I just want one bout 7", with just an AV input plug, no gps, no dvd player, no tv aerial, good res. Would have though there would be quite a few out there.

**magicmonkey** · 12th January 2010, 18:45

Originally Posted by bogan

Been googling for suitable screens, pretty tricky finding a suitable one, I just want one bout 7", with just an AV input plug, no gps, no dvd player, no tv aerial, good res. Would have though there would be quite a few out there.

surely you'd need at least an EEPROM to decode the signal from the camera and turn it into something watchable? You could probably use the existing chips in a bog standard GPS unit, maybe even find a slightly larger screen and have GPS at the bottom and mirror at the top...