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    Corner Upgrade - Plea

    Hopefully Sam's accident won't be in vain - and no more will have to succumb to that stupid fucken corner........fingers crossed that no one else will lose their lives on this corner.

    Plea to upgrade killer corner

    03 May 2005
    By TANYA KATTERNS

    Pressure is back on Government road funder Transfund to agree to an urgent upgrade of a notorious bend that has killed four motorcyclists in three years.

    In the latest crash on the Masterton to Martinborough road at Gladstone, 20-year-old Samuel Langham, of Wellington, died after his motorcycle and a car collided on the crest of a rising bend on Sunday.

    Eight weeks ago, on the same curve, Bernie Esler, of Masterton, crashed his motorcycle. He died several days later in hospital.

    Sunday's crash also happened just metres from where Masterton motorcyclists Tony Bak and Joseph Tyacke were killed in 2002, after being hit head-on by a car being driven by an American tourist, who later pleaded guilty to dangerous driving charges.

    The stretch of road has long been a concern of Carterton District Council, which has made several appeals to Transfund to cover the cost of the road being straightened.

    The cost of the work is estimated at around $1 million.

    In the 2002 double fatality, Masterton coroner Jock Kershaw accepted a police investigation report that bad road design was a major factor in the crash. Officer in charge of the road-policing branch at the time, Sergeant Mike McRandle said from the crest of the road, it was not clear where the road went. The signs at each approach were inadequate, and ultimately major redevelopment of the bend, bridge and its approaches was needed.

    Mr McRandle later worked closely with Carterton District Council through a list of recommendations from police and the coroner.

    Council chief executive Kieran Shaw said that, in the past three years, the council had undertaken a number of improvements at the bend, but it remained a major risk.

    A series of new signage and road markings alerted motorists to the bend, but the only real safety solution would be to straighten the corner, he said.

    "We have been agitating for some time now for Government-based funding to realign this awful bit of road, but we have never reached the funding criteria from the road funding authority."

    "We will continue to push and plead.

    "Maybe one day, when something else goes wrong, we will be listened to," Mr Shaw said.

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    Hmm....

    Fingers crossed...... the bloody bureaucrats will fix it in time to save our grandchildren.

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    So it will cost $1m ! 4 people dead so far - what is the cost benefit analysis figure on lives vs cost of upgrade?
    Or are they just motorcyclists, so they dont count!
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    Bit late now !! Had a intersection changed after I got T-boned on my 3 week old bike . write off yea .Then they put a Stop sign there

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    The pollies tend to do nothing until it gets close to home.

    If its not a member of their family, or if it won't help them get re-elected, then forget about it.

    We would be better off making up our own signs to indicate the way the corners goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPman
    So it will cost $1m ! 4 people dead so far - what is the cost benefit analysis figure on lives vs cost of upgrade?
    Or are they just motorcyclists, so they dont count!
    $2.5 million per fatality is the standard figure in NZ.
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    Another factor which should be taken into account is accidents per unit of traffic.

    You would find that, pro rata with its usage, its probably not a safe road.

    Then again, maybe we should just shut up, put up our own sign and hope like hell they don't try and "improve" the road like the Kaitokes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer
    Then again, maybe we should just shut up, put up our own sign and hope like hell they don't try and "improve" the road like the Kaitokes...
    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhh. Dont even get me started!

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer
    Another factor which should be taken into account is accidents per unit of traffic.

    You would find that, pro rata with its usage, its probably not a safe road.

    Then again, maybe we should just shut up, put up our own sign and hope like hell they don't try and "improve" the road like the Kaitokes...
    Indeed. Bikers are supposed to love corners afterall...

    And don't get me started on the vandalisation of my beloved Kaitokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitcher
    Indeed. Bikers are supposed to love corners afterall...

    And don't get me started on the vandalisation of my beloved Kaitokes.
    Without diminishing the tragedy of Sam's accident, we have to decide if we want nice, straight safe roads or ones we enjoy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lou Girardin
    Without diminishing the tragedy of Sam's accident, we have to decide if we want nice, straight safe roads or ones we enjoy.
    I do not know this corner, but I think the point is that this is one where improvement is absolutely necessary. We (all?) love the twisties but I for one get very nervous when I can't see, or have the time to react to, what is coming.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    My point is, that maybe a way for us all to make a difference is to collectively erect our own sign there.

    If we warn other bikers at the point of source, then maybe we can save a life or two.

    I for one would rather incur the wrath of Transit NZ by putting up a sign illegally than wait for someone else to die before they decide to "fix" the corner.

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    Shrug its election year, work will begin there tomorrow, a warning sign will be planted next to a Vote Labour sign.
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    We do all love the twisties and signage does help. The thing I have noticed over here though is the signs are often missleading, especially the speed ones. Some are so far out that you slow down to the speed they say and wonder why you had to!!!

    For all those going out there on Sunday maybe we could have a good look and put some ideas forward. See if election year can be used to our advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by riffer
    My point is, that maybe a way for us all to make a difference is to collectively erect our own sign there.
    Transit will remove it - illegal/unauthorized signs are a road hazard, y'know...
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