Role Model Rider Campaign - win $50 petrol vouchers and more

[James Deuce]

look, do you want free petrol vouchers for far more than your bike can possibly carry or not?!

what's more, this $50 comes straight from teh ACC accident prevention budget - consider it a rego refund for the responsible

Any deal with the Devil is a bad one. This is a PR campaign to improve ACC's image with motorcyclists because they perceive us to be simple souls and thus easily bought. I see they are correct in their assumption. Ulysses have slapped their name on it so they can look like heroes.

ACC will spend 3 million on petrol vouchers fairly quickly and discharge themselves from the undertaking to fund 3 million dollars worth of safety initiatives.

Any reward based on the perception that someone is wearing good gear is ridiculous. They'd do better to construct a pamphlet to go out with Rego reminders telling people how to buy gear that fits properly and how to test it fits properly before spending money on it.

[Ixion]

IOn fairness, ACC have run these sorts of promotions before, prior to the levy issue. And the funding for this obviously isn't coming from the proposed safety fund. And the total dollar spend will be small - a few thousand, not millions

My objection to this sort of promotion is that it is a waste of money. And I am concerned that when ACC do have $3M to play with it will be wasted in the same way.

I very much doubt that a campaign like this will make the slightest difference to bike safety - in fact, probably the reverse.

[Hinny]

ACC will spend 3 million on petrol vouchers fairly quickly and discharge themselves from the undertaking to fund 3 million dollars worth of safety initiatives.

Where did you get that number from?

[James Deuce]

Where did you get that number from?

One of the negotiated outcomes from the Bikoi.

[Hinny]

So you don't believe this is some sort of a scam in spite of my earlier posted reservations?

[James Deuce]

Nah, they've done it before without any public advertising through various elements of NZ motorcycling from Bike shops to bike clubs.

[vifferman]

So I can ride like a total cock, and be a role model so long as people can SEE me riding like a total cock?

Didja miss the bit at the end (after 'boots') tha says "AND riding safely"?

Nah, they've done it before without any public advertising through various elements of NZ motorcycling from Bike shops to bike clubs.

I initially thought this seemed like a good idea, but if it's done semi-covertly like this, it's not promoting safety at all. I can't see it being very likely that those who are 'rewarded' in this way and crow to their mates about getting a petrol voucher will inspire their mates to go out and get better gear. It's more a self-promotional thing by the ACC, effectively saying, "Look! We're being nice! And we're doing something about safety!"
I can't see them giving out $3million on petrol vouchers either, especially if they're not advertising doing this. (And if they were, the advertising would presumably come out of the $3million budget!) If they're only putting nominated riders in a draw for a petrol voucher, and it's running for only a few months, that doesn't add up to very many vouchers.
Assuming it's 5 months, that's 12,000 vouchers per monthly draw. (Cue Tui ad here...)

[Squiggles]

Its something in the region of 30-40 vouchers from memory.

Dammed if they do dammed if they dont eh?

[vifferman]

Dammed if they do dammed if they dont eh?

Well, while in principle it's a good idea (that is, encouraging riders to be safety-conscious), they need to be sure that the money spent is a good "return on investment'. After all, it's not their money they're throwing around.

[Squiggles]

Well, while in principle it's a good idea (that is, encouraging riders to be safety-conscious), they need to be sure that the money spent is a good "return on investment'. After all, it's not their money they're throwing around.

My biggest gripe would be this, and their lack of an overall vision... people who look after only specific areas (Manukau, Auckland City, Waitakere) without any cohesion on most projects, let alone an overall vision... Perfect when so many commute half way across the city for work

[crazyhorse]

So I can ride like a total cock, and be a role model so long as people can SEE me riding like a total cock?

... odd...

Sounds like this contest might bring out the best.... or worse in some people. Who knows what the general public are going witness bike riders in Auckland doing....... the mind boggles

[ManDownUnder]

Didja miss the bit at the end (after 'boots') tha says "AND riding safely"?

Adter due consideration of your question I would have to say... may-be...

[James Deuce]

For those of you who struggle without smilies to convey humour (arr arr) I do not imagine ACC will give out 3 million dollars worth of petrol vouchers - they'll just say they've fulfilled their post-Bikoi obligations after giving out 12 $50 petrol vouchers.

Squiggles, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. ACC want motorcycles off the road. They're not interested in viable safety campaigns, or they'd be recruiting motorcycle safety experts to perfrom the task. Giving out petrol vouchers is simply another couple of paving stones on the road to a bike-less hell. Always remember that ACC think you are the enemy and a stupid one at that.

[Ixion]

Well, while in principle it's a good idea (that is, encouraging riders to be safety-conscious), they need to be sure that the money spent is a good "return on investment'. After all, it's not their money they're throwing around.

Hm. So, based on their figures , $62M, 1336 entitlement crashes, about $1500 invested in petrol vouchers. So, they're looking for a return on the investment of 0.03 of a crash ? Really investing for success aren't they.

[Hanne]

Oh, 0.03? That probably was used up when I didn't slam the sidestand into my big toe whilst parking. (Hey, it hurts enough when it happens!)