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    Confessions from a first time rider

    Well, i've been wanting to ride a motorbike for years and years, and since being out working for the last few years, it's been a desire that's stronger than ever. Not to mention more affordable.

    Perhaps i should start at the beginning... As a young boy i grew up in small town NZ with all the other kids living on farms and riding around on dirt bikes and horses e.t.c. but i grew up in the town side of town so had no such luxury. I was able to have a few rides on friends machines but never anything that satisfied my hunger.

    The years passed and the desire was replaced with various other activities which probably had less chance of pain, as much adrenaline, but more mother appeal.

    And then this year, many years after i last tried to ride a motorcycle i decided that my inevitable move to Wellington would be the catalyst for me getting both a licence and a motorbioke to use.

    After half an hour pootling around on a GN125 at the testing station i sat the basic skills and handling test and passed with only minor, or that's how i saw them, problems. The scratchie test was a breeze as i've been driving around on a full car licence for almost 10 years now. And then i had a nice new blue licence in my wallet.

    I went through the hard decision on whether i should buy an old broken beast that would take my learner abuse and keep on tickin' and then on-sell it when i grew tired of its inevitable downcomings. Or whether i should buy something half decent, treat it nicely, or as nicely as possible, and be able to hold onto it until i'm well into my full licence.

    I have a knack it seems of buying the cheap object, finding it isn't up to scratch and then selling it after losing interest, never to try it again. So this time i decided that i wanted to make this motorcycling thing last and grab something with a bit of staying power.

    What i thought would take mere days, actually ended up taking many months of looking and i actually ended up with NOMIS' 2001 Honda Hornet 250 from these fine forums. With so much to choose from and so many variables to consider the options seem to be endless. I started with a budget of $4k for a bike, which blew out to $6k and then a little more to get Nomis' machine.

    It seemed inevitable that i would spend more than i wanted on gear as well. The budget for that blew out when i started to investigate benefits and downsides of each piece of kit and i am still lacking any decent pants, but for now i don't think i'll be needing them unless i'm caught in a rain storm.

    So i had a nice shiny bike, helmet, gloves, jacket and some boots, all i needed now was some spare time to go for my first ride.

    It took a few days but i chose an early morning ride out and around to Ohiro Bay here in Wellington. The roads would be relatively clear, i could do some practice bits and pieces and maybe even a hill start if the lights were against me on the way home.

    It started well, no problems with waking up (i'd been dreaming about this day for years so had everything organised). Took all the gear down to the garage, started the bike up and got myself ready. And within minutes i was trundlind down the road at twice the speed i'd ever been at on a motorbike.

    I have extensive time behind road cycle and mountain bike handlebars so i felt i was going to be capable of basic manouvers but i wasn't ready for the weight the bike felt. It was nimble and could do what i wanted without too much arguing but was much heavier than i imagined. I wasn't surprised as much as interested to feel the differences and keen to see where i could push them.

    So hitting 70kph was incredibly easy and very exhilirating. Getting looked at sternly by a passing policeman was, it seemed, even easier. I passed two police cars in the hour i was pottering around and both were either genuinely intersted in either what i was riding, or how i was riding...

    Opening up the throttle on a hill or on the exit of a corner is a feeling i can't describe. It took me half an hour or so to start feeling more comfortable on the bike and positioning myself to use less energy while cornering but hitting that sweet spot of comfort and excitement was great.

    I started for the first half hour by changing through the gears with full use of the clutch both up and down. After accidentally tapping down a gear without using the clutch i started to experiment by dropping the revs for a fraction of a second and kicking through the gears. It's a much faster change and one less thing to think about when starting from a stopped position.

    I seem to be terrible at remembering to turn off my indicators after a turn so removing the clutch aspect made it much easier for me to remember. Perhaps i'll look into rigging up an electrical switch that will cancel the signal after the steering has straightened for a time or gone back the other direction... All in due time i guess.

    I'm clearly still a learner but i imagine that that will be how i feel for many more years to come. Currently hill starts are my target to master. Living here in Wellington i don't think i have a choice in the matter. Perhaps a trial by fire will be a good way of figuring out how to do them... Or not. Considering i went from not riding for over 15 years to jumping on a bike and riding around winding hilly streets and absolutely loving it, this is something i think i'll stick with for a wee while yet.

    There seems to be a time for practice in a parking lot and a time for practice in the real world. For me, i don't have a choice, i'd have to ride across town to find a parking lot so it's just easier to ride around town anyway. I didn't find it particularly scary, but i don't have a desire to push my luck either.

    Well either way, watch this space. Add your first time stories and perhaps someone can make use of some of them.

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    Nice read mate ! Clutchless shifting already lol nice !
    A girlfriend once asked " Why is it you seem to prefer to race, than spend time with me ?"
    The answer was simple ! "I'll prolly get bored with racing too, once i've nailed it !"

    Bowls can wait !

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    When you get your speed up -think about getting earplugs as it makes big difference...

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    Please use the clutch. You will find the gearbox lasts longer that way.
    Ride fast or be last.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maki View Post
    Please use the clutch. You will find the gearbox lasts longer that way.
    Bollox! dont use it youl find the right rev's you can kick it upward's with out the slightst clunk or jolt and wil feel almost automatic, tust me I rode it for 18month's or so :-) , glad to see your enjoying is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disrespective View Post
    So i had a nice shiny bike, helmet, gloves, jacket and some boots
    I'm clearly still a learner but i imagine that that will be how i feel for many more years to come.
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    Hi there & welcome to KB!!!!

    Good gear might save your skin & bones.. but good rider training might save your life!!!

    Please get in touch with Andrew & Lynne @ Roadsafe & book yourself into a training course!!! Tis the best investment you can make for your new passion!!!!

    http://www.roadsafe.co.nz/

    Enjoy!!!
    GET ON
    SIT DOWN
    SHUT UP
    HANG ON

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    Rider training seems like it has to wait for me to get my restricted. No worries though, i plan on doing as many training options as time and money allow.

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    Blah

    @ Disrespective... Good story.
    I chose my bike on the shape of the seat mainly. I was looking at a FZR 250 but was put off by the thickness of the cushioning -i.e. not much. At least I had a choice. Parked next to the FZR was a Bandit with a better seat and for sale too.. I chose to ride it home from Palmy to Haumoana.. minus the L plate - to fit in with main highway traffic speeds .

    Long story somewhat shortened I fell into similar traps. Indicators left on and after topping up in Dannevirke found out about the kill switch and its primary function. Took a couple of jabs on starter button and an abortive attempt at a running start to realise something I was doing was just wrong..
    Didn't take long to get going again and I settled into the ride home without much incident. A low speed small diameter U-turn almost ended in me dropping the bike once but hey! I had insurance..no one saw me.. but another hour to go was a definite incentive to keep it upright.
    Enjoyed the ride. I think I will be doing a round trip again soon.. Have to find some excuse..

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    Talking

    Welcome to riding,take it easy and enjoy.Watch out for the idiots on the road,pretend your invisible.Use countersteering when going quicker to get the bike turned.For slow speed tight radius turns(as in manouvering around the car park) avoid front brake,use back and clutch.Corners slow in, fast out ,etc,etc.Lots to learn so take it easy and enjoy the journey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disrespective View Post
    I seem to be terrible at remembering to turn off my indicators after a turn so removing the clutch aspect made it much easier for me to remember. Perhaps i'll look into rigging up an electrical switch that will cancel the signal after the steering has straightened for a time or gone back the other direction... All in due time i guess.
    I hated the lack of "conveniences" on the lil' ol'hornet when I first got her. No centre stand. No fuel gauge. No clicking indicators. And she doesn't make my morning coffee.

    Then it struck me one morning while taking a leak. She's a motorbike. If I want a bike that stands up properly, with a fuel gauge, clicking indicators and makes me coffee, I should be driving my MR2.

    Motorbikes should be making my life miserable but fun. Painful but pleasurable. Just yesterday I couldn't start the lil' ol'hornet again. It's wet, and it's cold, and I was too stubborn to give up trying. It's now sitting outside in the wet and cold, with a flat (and old) battery. How miserable... though I know the moment I ride her on the roads again I'll forgive and forget anything and everything...

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    Good on ya bro. Yeah you just HAVE TO check the indicators coming out of every corner, and approaching every intersection - the last thing you need is to be indicating a left turn when you are going to plow straight through the intersection at 50k. You don't need to look down at the dash - keep your eyes on the road and just use your left thumb and go press-press-press if you want them canceled. You can just randomly press-press to check that they are off also - very very occasionally you will find them left on, so check it regularly.

    Be careful out there, and have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KelvinAng View Post
    I hated the lack of "conveniences" on the lil' ol'hornet when I first got her. No centre stand. No fuel gauge. No clicking indicators. And she doesn't make my morning coffee.

    Then it struck me one morning while taking a leak. She's a motorbike. If I want a bike that stands up properly, with a fuel gauge, clicking indicators and makes me coffee, I should be driving my MR2.

    Motorbikes should be making my life miserable but fun. Painful but pleasurable. Just yesterday I couldn't start the lil' ol'hornet again. It's wet, and it's cold, and I was too stubborn to give up trying. It's now sitting outside in the wet and cold, with a flat (and old) battery. How miserable... though I know the moment I ride her on the roads again I'll forgive and forget anything and everything...

    Lol you a re a motorbike nightmare, Your bike should be inside!!! not in the cold rain. lol, and whats this a hornet with out fuel gauge? !!! mine had one :S my Viffer doesnt :-(

    and I dont think ive ever heard of a bike that has self canceling indicators , I mean how could it work at al. you dont really turn the bars to go around a corner unless you are going very slow , its all weight transfer and counter steer. and no center stand , what you need that for? I had the jade 250 for a while and i never used it i couldnt stand it to be honest extra weight no reason - it had side stand as well, if you need do a chain lube pull it over on side stand and but something under the foot rest, - balance aint it a wonder of the world.
    " yah trick yah "


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    Quote Originally Posted by NOMIS View Post
    Lol you a re a motorbike nightmare, Your bike should be inside!!! not in the cold rain. lol, and whats this a hornet with out fuel gauge? !!! mine had one :S my Viffer doesnt :-(

    and I dont think ive ever heard of a bike that has self canceling indicators , I mean how could it work at al. you dont really turn the bars to go around a corner unless you are going very slow , its all weight transfer and counter steer. and no center stand , what you need that for? I had the jade 250 for a while and i never used it i couldnt stand it to be honest extra weight no reason - it had side stand as well, if you need do a chain lube pull it over on side stand and but something under the foot rest, - balance aint it a wonder of the world.
    Yea she's usually in the garage when I'm in a flat with one, but since moving back to ChCh from Dunedin (work arrangements, again) I'm now in a flat without a garage, so the poor lil' ol'hornet has to be out in the cold ChCh autumn rain. Tarpaulins can only do this much! I admit I don't pamper my lil' ol'hornet too much... she's a toughie, and prolly just need a new battery.

    I think only Lil' ol'Hornets '98 or later have fuel gauges. Can't be sure, but I'm pretty certain the 1996 and 1997 models come stock with temperature gauges instead of fuel gauges, like all real bikes do
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    All I can really remember about getting my first road bike was my budget constraints. I wanted a nice looking, reasonable good sports 250, but that meant I would have to pay the same price as a good 600. I ended up with a RG150, which suited my around town needs and the odd small open road trip, but got a bit uncomfortable on big trips. It was a very fun bike though.

    Well on from there and a few bikes later I know have an R6 and still love every minute on the road, just have to watch out for the police.....

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    i'm a newbie too... haven't got a bike YET, been pillion lots. am trying to talk bikie partner to helping me get one, i'm too spontaneous!!! am enjoying reading your tit-bits so thanks... will let you know how my new bike goes when i get it... hopefully really soon before it gets too cold... have had a quick ride on a vtr 250 at the march hare which was fun

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