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    Changing my learners bike?

    Hi, I have a Hyosung GT250 Comet which I have been struggling to learn on, I find it very heavy and a bit big (I am 5'6" and under 70kg), I rode a friends street legal dirt bike the other day and realised just how much easier it could be!

    I am looking at selling the Hyosung and buying a 250cc dual purpose bike. Have been looking on trademe and there is a good condition 2006 Honda XR250 Tornado - does anyone know if this is the kind of bike I can ride on the open road at a reasonable speed? (I am not a speedster, just want to be able to ride it at 100kph and keep up with traffic)

    Thanks!

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    Consider a Yamaha Scorpio (and I'm not saying it just because I have one)

    I'm only 5'7 myself and find it easy to keep both feet on the ground (seat height 770mm), and at only 124kg dry weight, you'll have no problems with weight. When I was learning I also found it more reactive to the Honda CB-250 I did my BHS in when looking/ leaning towards where I wanted to go.

    Cheap as chips to buy and run, and will easily get up to 100 km/h (hello, officer ). Also, there was some bloke in a recent issue of Kiwi Rider, who's also a bit short, using his Scorpio to go up and down the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    Hi, I have a Hyosung GT250 Comet which I have been struggling to learn on, I find it very heavy and a bit big (I am 5'6" and under 70kg), I rode a friends street legal dirt bike the other day and realised just how much easier it could be!

    I am looking at selling the Hyosung and buying a 250cc dual purpose bike. Have been looking on trademe and there is a good condition 2006 Honda XR250 Tornado - does anyone know if this is the kind of bike I can ride on the open road at a reasonable speed? (I am not a speedster, just want to be able to ride it at 100kph and keep up with traffic)

    Thanks!

    Yes its ok on the open road,a work mate and myself use to ride from palmy to wgtn too work and he had no trouble doing the 100kph speed limit even the 120 kph zone and he would of been about your weight ....and yes its much more fun learning on a dirt bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by dogsnbikes View Post
    ....and yes its much more fun learning on a dirt bike
    Also more effective, if you bother going off road with it. It's a really good way to learn handling skills, especially in slippery situations (gravel roads, snad, mud, grass, etc.) And you're less likely to get injured while doing so.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Yep, I'm the same size as you, and I can imagine the GT would be a bit unwieldy when you're starting off. The Scorpio would be a good choice. probably better than an off road bike as the seat height will be lower.

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    Don't touch scorpios, they look hideous. Go for an FXR, They are pretty light, fast up to 100, very manoeuvrable and they look the part. They are also rather plentiful.
    Smoke 'em if you have 'em

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    Hi, I have a Hyosung GT250 Comet which I have been struggling to learn on, I find it very heavy and a bit big (I am 5'6" and under 70kg), I rode a friends street legal dirt bike the other day and realised just how much easier it could be!

    I am looking at selling the Hyosung and buying a 250cc dual purpose bike. Have been looking on trademe and there is a good condition 2006 Honda XR250 Tornado - does anyone know if this is the kind of bike I can ride on the open road at a reasonable speed? (I am not a speedster, just want to be able to ride it at 100kph and keep up with traffic)

    Thanks!
    I looked at dual purpose for ages for just about the same reason. Unfortunately most of them have really high seats, the exception being the Yamaha XT 250. Dunno how comfy they'd be for long distance, but they go 100k easily.

    Someone on here is selling a Yamaha SRV which is a great bike.

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    Lucy - just discovered the same thing - the Yamaha XT 250 looks like the one I need, the XR250 is too high for me.
    The guy in the shop also mentioned an AX-1 (Honda) - looks like a good possibility but need to check out the seat height.
    I am average height for a woman - and now I know why so many girls ride cruisers!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    Lucy - just discovered the same thing - the Yamaha XT 250 looks like the one I need, the XR250 is too high for me.
    The guy in the shop also mentioned an AX-1 (Honda) - looks like a good possibility but need to check out the seat height.
    I am average height for a woman - and now I know why so many girls ride cruisers!!!!
    Ha ha you are probably right about that! Most 250 road bikes are ok though, although I've never tried the Hyosung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucy View Post
    I looked at dual purpose for ages for just about the same reason. Unfortunately most of them have really high seats, the exception being the Yamaha XT 250. Dunno how comfy they'd be for long distance, but they go 100k easily.

    Someone on here is selling a Yamaha SRV which is a great bike.
    The XT 250 looks like a really good bike. I think it's a pretty similar bike to my super sherpa, which is fine for longer distances (now I've added a bit of extra foam to the seat).
    The road to hell is paved...

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    Yep I think the Sherpa and the XT 250 are very similar, also the XT 225. There are no used ones on trademe but there are a couple of Honda AX-1's - The seat height is about the same as the XT 250 so it could be a goer! Not a trail bike as such but ok on dirt roads etc...and very light!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie View Post
    The XT 250 looks like a really good bike. I think it's a pretty similar bike to my super sherpa, which is fine for longer distances (now I've added a bit of extra foam to the seat).
    Oh yeah totally forgot about the Sherpa, was keen on one of those too. I've never seen the AX-1, and didn't hear of it while I was looking. Bummer.

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    I watched my short-ass scaredy-cat wife learn on a GT250R, and then my 15 y/o shorty daughter on her comet 250, and they did well.

    Strongly suggest you get some quality support before you make changes. Unless of course, if you have had a few bad frights then maybe you will be unable to reconcile it.

    I assure you, the comet is much easier to ride than the GT250R.

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    cheers dangerous - no bad frights - have only dropped it whilst pretty much stopped - as soon as I lose momentum and I am on any kind of slope / uneven ground, over she goes. I can't pick it up myself and basically feel uncomfortable taking it out for a ride. It is probably more the weight than the height - I can touch the ground easily enough, but I am not very strong at all.

    I have ridden a yamaha xt225 and feltl like I could go anywhere on it, which is how I want it to be.

    I don't see it as a major change, the dual purpose is likely to cost me less than the comet and it will mean I actually get some riding in! (which is the whole point!!!)

    S

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    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    have only dropped it whilst pretty much stopped - as soon as I lose momentum and I am on any kind of slope / uneven ground, over she goes. I can't pick it up myself and basically feel uncomfortable taking it out for a ride. It is probably more the weight than the height - I can touch the ground easily enough, but I am not very strong at all.
    Ok. Yeah bikes are heavy ay.. My girls couldn't possibly pick up their bikes.. well, they do not think they can anyway, so they cannot. I think I can pick up my 650, but I nearly buggered my back doing it. oops.

    Quote Originally Posted by squirrel View Post
    I have ridden a yamaha xt225 and feltl like I could go anywhere on it, which is how I want it to be.
    Well there you go then.

    Be patient with yourself though. It's going to take time. Bikes are heavy. See if there is someone experienced nearby who will just hang out with you and go at your speed. You will learn lots of little things, and feel much better fast.

    Also, if you feel nervous then don't ride. Just go when you are ready, and have a little putter and put the bike away. It might take a few years, but soon you be the master of a huge and heavy powerful beast, and be quite the expert on it.

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