Loophole around breach of licence conditions?

**EnzoYug** · 26th January 2010, 09:35

Hi Yall,

If anyone can get search to give up the answer to this question - please, list the link and flame me.
For the rest of you here's a question:

A while ago (some years) someone on here mentioned that a fine for breach of licence conditions, if left unpaid, would no longer be inforceable once the ticketed driver upgraded to a full licence.

Ie. Driver on a restricted gets tickted for being outside of hours. One week later (and before paying) they get their full licence. Must they pay? (not 'should' they pay but 'must' they pay?)

A friend has earned himself a $400 whallop and reguardless of the moral implications, I'm interested if this theory still (or ever did) hold water.

Discuss....

**breakaway** · 26th January 2010, 09:55

This is the most ridiculous post I've ever read.

Do you honestly think that if you get your full licence AFTER you got a licence infringement ticket that the ticket would be wiped? I'm surprised that anyone is even entertaining such an idea.

There's no 'link' to be posted here, it's common sense, and if you can't figure this one out on your own, then god help you.

**imdying** · 26th January 2010, 10:05

Fine won't go anywhere, it'll just go up when they add court fees, and then enforcement fees, then collection fees.

**CookMySock** · 26th January 2010, 10:13

Originally Posted by imdying

Fine won't go anywhere, it'll just go up when they add court fees, and then enforcement fees, then collection fees.

Yes, but then under the act you request a stay of proceedings, file an affidavit that you have taken remedial actions, apologise to the court, request a rehearing, and they get pissed off at all the paperwork and write the ticket off.

Steve

**centaurus** · 26th January 2010, 10:21

Originally Posted by EnzoYug

Hi Yall,

If anyone can get search to give up the answer to this question - please, list the link and flame me.
For the rest of you here's a question:

A while ago (some years) someone on here mentioned that a fine for breach of licence conditions, if left unpaid, would no longer be inforceable once the ticketed driver upgraded to a full licence.

Ie. Driver on a restricted gets tickted for being outside of hours. One week later (and before paying) they get their full licence. Must they pay? (not 'should' they pay but 'must' they pay?)

A friend has earned himself a $400 whallop and reguardless of the moral implications, I'm interested if this theory still (or ever did) hold water.

Discuss....

I think you are reffering to something a little bit different: sometimes, police catch people driving/riding on learners for years and not bothering about the restrictions. In some cases, as an incentive for the driver to take his/her restricted or full, the police will issue a ticket with a grace period (specified on the ticket). If the person takes the restricted/full license test in that grace period, the fine is canceled.

I've had a simmilar thing a couple of months ago for an expired WOF. I explained the guy that the bike was on its way to a WOF station and he gave me a ticket with a 28 days grace period. I passed the WOF within 28 days and sent the WOF proof with the fine to the police. they canceled my ticket for me.

**R6_kid:Me** · 26th January 2010, 10:22

Originally Posted by EnzoYug

A while ago (some years) someone on here mentioned that a fine for breach of licence conditions, if left unpaid, would no longer be inforceable once the ticketed driver upgraded to a full licence.

Ie. Driver on a restricted gets tickted for being outside of hours. One week later (and before paying) they get their full licence. Must they pay?

I do know of circumstances where someone has been very close to their full (as in a few days) and the officer has said that if they go back to them withing 7 days with the full licence that they will cancel the ticket. In this case it applied to a friend who had applied for their full but missed the test due to unforeseen circumstances, they got caught a day or two later riding after 10pm and accordingly given a $400 fine. The fine was overturned when he went back in two days later and presented his temporary full licence.

Originally Posted by breakaway

This is the most ridiculous post I've ever read.

You should go back through and read some of yours!

**imdying** · 26th January 2010, 10:23

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Yes, but then under the act you request a stay of proceedings, file an affidavit that you have taken remedial actions, apologise to the court, request a rehearing, and they get pissed off at all the paperwork and write the ticket off.

Steve

Yes, some times that will work. Just have to decide if you're a betting man or not.

**EnzoYug** · 26th January 2010, 11:05

Originally Posted by breakaway

This is the most ridiculous post I've ever read.

Do you honestly think that if you get your full licence AFTER you got a licence infringement ticket that the ticket would be wiped? I'm surprised that anyone is even entertaining such an idea.

There's no 'link' to be posted here, it's common sense, and if you can't figure this one out on your own, then god help you.

There are no stupid questions, just stupid people. And common sense doesn't always apply to the law here, or in any other country. Examples if you need them:
http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/411749/634301
or here: http://www.otagonorml.com/node/211

and with more serious crimes like murder in mind.... http://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/p...oophole+closed

Everybody else... good responses. I'll let me workmate know he's screwed

**red mermaid** · 26th January 2010, 16:24

Write in to the address at the top left of the ticket, PO Box 9147, I think it is.

If the ticket was issued after 1 Dec 2009, it is invalid as the infringement is $100.

If your mate has actually passed his next stage of his licence, attach proof of that and the ticket MAY be waived.

**The Pastor** · 26th January 2010, 16:28

Originally Posted by breakaway

This is the most ridiculous post I've ever read.

Do you honestly think that if you get your full licence AFTER you got a licence infringement ticket that the ticket would be wiped? I'm surprised that anyone is even entertaining such an idea.

There's no 'link' to be posted here, it's common sense, and if you can't figure this one out on your own, then god help you.

i was thinking the same thing, until i saw this post below!

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

Yes, but then under the act you request a stay of proceedings, file an affidavit that you have taken remedial actions, apologise to the court, request a rehearing, and they get pissed off at all the paperwork and write the ticket off.

Steve

**Askelon** · 26th January 2010, 18:02

I got a grace period of 30 days (about 5 years ago) after being caught riding my bike on a restricted. He basically said if I get my butt into gear and get my full he'd wipe it. He nicely did so. Had been sitting on my restricted for like 8 years so it was a damned good incentive to get my full

.. If it was today I reckon I'd be wearing the fine, prob walking home too..

**roadracingoldfart** · 26th January 2010, 19:12

Well i got a ticket for failure to produce a licence , i was given 7 days to present it at a station near me. That was on a Sunday , Monday morn i rang and booked to sit my licence on the Wed , passed the test , presented my brand new licence on the Thurs and all was well in the ticket tearing up department lol . Mind you , that was in 1975 before computors lol.
Ahhh those were the days ,Lower Hutt city council cops werte braimnless most of the time .

**LBD** · 27th January 2010, 04:26

Originally Posted by red mermaid

Write in to the address at the top left of the ticket, PO Box 9147, I think it is..

So how often do you need to send a letter to a box number (Belonging to the traffic infringment office) to know the number by memory?...I just have to know.

**red mermaid** · 27th January 2010, 05:26

I've never written a letter, but read the tickets quite often.

**yachtie10** · 27th January 2010, 07:46

Originally Posted by LBD

So how often do you need to send a letter to a box number (Belonging to the traffic infringment office) to know the number by memory?...I just have to know.

somehow i think your not paying attention
methinks its his job