An acceptable speed on a public road is 15% slower than the marked speed.
Anything slower than this is not acceptable.
Come warm yourself by the fire
An acceptable speed on a public road is 15% slower than the marked speed.
Anything slower than this is not acceptable.
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Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
I chose up to 20kph over the limit on the poll because I can't afford to lose my license and I don't like paying fines. At 20 over (or less) the fines aren't so expensive and the demerit points aren't so high, but most of the time I try to keep to under 20kph over the speed limit on my speedo which mostly has me within 10kph over in real speed (verified by GPS). So my answer is within 20kph due to legal reasons, not safety or anything else.
If it weren't for the legal speed limits then my answer would be a bit different. If motorcycles weren't restricted by the legal speed limit and it was up to us to decide what speed to travel then I would have done some things differently. For a start I wouldn't have purchased a 400cc scooter, I would have spent the same $6500 on something a bit quicker. I was reluctant to buy a quick bike because I doubted my ability to keep my license if I bought a GSX-R. If I didn't have to worry about the legal limit then I would have chosen the 80+ option - but I would choose carefully where & when to travel at that sort of speed. I suppose I would ride 120-140kph quite a lot and faster than that only where I feel safe to do so - if only I didn't need to fear loss of license.
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I have not voted as the poll is pretty fucked up really... how can you make such a blanket poll that suits all roads, conditions etc...
some time the speed limit is to dangerious for the conditions then other time you can do 2x the speed limit no problem...
I usually ride to the conditions and within my ability... I also usually ride to a point I can always stop within the road that i can see but then when going round blind corners its really just chance even at the posted limit if you can stop in time if there is something blocking the way where you can not see...
Say someone was traveling at 180kph, thats 3km per minute or 50m per second so if a sheep ran on the road 100m ahead of you thats 2 seconds to impact ... would you have the time to react?? or would target fixation take over??? or just hit at full speed and have lamb chops freshly diced and chopped...
at least at 120kph, 2km per minute or 33m per second you get about about another second to react which well could be having an impact or not...
But how many people really think about that??? fuck all....
Don't get me wrong... I love speed and I do sit above the limit most of the time but you have to pick your time, place and conditions to do it... the other factor is where are the cops, above 40kph above and you are walking for awhile... When I ride I do not really look at the speedo unless in a buildup area... I ride to whats comfortable at the time so it thats 20km over the limit them thats it... if its 80km over then thats it... in built up areas I am usually close to the limit
I ride alone or with a friend a lot because I dont like riding in big groups of riders I am not sure about or they dont know how I ride... going to the Vincent last year was a prime example I came close to rear ending one of the ones I was riding with due to him braking for easy corners when doing 100kph but the corners could be taken well over that... I soon passed as did my brother inlaw and we cruised along at a steady pace...
At the end its not speed that kills... its the sudden impacts that are hightened by extra speed that make it more likley to not have a good outcome...
but hey any one reading this could get run over by a bus tomorrow so live life to the fullist
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kinda covering all bases there in ur answer, without really saying much
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and your point is???... the first line is the main point...
Come warm yourself by the fire
Correct me if I am wrong but if you think above 20kph is acceptable - and someone roars past you at 40kph faster than you - does that not make you a hypocrite?
While speed doesn't kill on its own - neither does a gun or a knife. It needs circumstance and someone to wield it to make it kill.
I think the speed limit +10 is acceptable, 10-80 is reasonable, 80-200 is asking for trouble.
But then again that does give me the ability to cry about some idiot who passes me at 250+kph. But I suppose I should look forward for the bike coming up as a cheap streetfighter project while they put the previous rider in a box.
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Why are some people putting down verified by GPS?
All the gps units i have, and there are a few, are not that accurite with speed as they can have up to a 2 sec lag and calcuate speed by time over distance so have trouble when there is a change in elevation.
the only way i have known to check the speedo is an allready defined distance to check your odometer against.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
Because without any noticable elevation change if you hold a steady speed for a few second you will have a VERY accurate reading of speed from the GPS. If under those circumstances your speedo reads 120kph and the GPS is holding steady at 108kph then it becomes clear that you need to knock 10% off the speedo reading to have actual speed. Some of us are smart enough to figure out that the GPS readings aren't bang on when going up and down hills or while accelerating or braking.
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troglodytam extraordinaire
Just can't say I've seen a gps the accurate (other than the big sat-nav units).
Hardcore Biker
GPS is not accurate because it measures distance, +/- 100 metres, therefore at one point it could be anything up to 199 metres wrong.
Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
I'm guessing that you have never used a GPS. They can give a location much more accurately then to the nearest 100m and I have NEVER seen mine anywhere near 199 metres wrong. In fact mine is seldom out by more than a few metres - I would say that it is accurate to within 10 metres most of the time. Mine is also fairly consistant - it isn't out in one direction by a few metres one second and out by a few metres in the opposite direction the next second. It seems pretty darn accurate to me - it consistantly gives a speed reading that ties in with what the speedo reads -10%. I have tested the GPS in a friends car and found that it matched his speedo within 1 or 2 kph - he thinks that would be correct as his speedo matches the speed that the police claim he is doing.
I have used the GPS on my cell phone with a google maps overlay - according to the gps I was right by the corner of the house that my bedroom is on - which matches with reality within a few metres. I have been able to get a reasonable reading of speed while walking that seems to easily be within 1kph of the speed I would have to be moving to cover the distance I cover in the time I cover it.
My experience is this: GPS speed readings are VERY accurate when travelling at a costant speed if there is no major elevation changes. Maybe in theory they can't be guaranteed to be that accurate, but in practise they work out to be bang on!
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Whisky Tango Foxtrot?
bugger - double tap, move along, nothing to see here!
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An acceptable length.
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There is a time, place and circumstances for everything. Police know this but what they do with that principle of "common sense applied" is up to them.
Acceptable speed? Ask a judge or JP at the defended hearing. It's enshrined in law whether we like it or not. I personally would love to see some roads with higher limits, but I doubt the 100km/h limit will change any time soon, even on the dual carriage highways.
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