What a knob: Came off today

[Motu]

So this is my question. Lets say you do experience a rear wheel lock through either a change down or compression lock (sorry Mom, still haven't figured out what that is yet), and especially considering your about to enter a corner, do you think your better to:

I'd prefer answers more tailored to a sports bike.

I've experienced plenty of compression lock up if you want to cal it that into corners,on gravel.I don't ride sportsbikes,and probably never will.Do you want answers or not?

[Conquiztador]

So the backwheel locks up when you change down (to first gear???). What to do? Change back up!

[p.dath]

I've experienced plenty of compression lock up if you want to cal it that into corners,on gravel.I don't ride sportsbikes,and probably never will.Do you want answers or not?

I think that if I had off road skills I could have saved this case as well. Once my rear wheel started sliding quickly I could probable have saved it by turning the bars hard in the direction I want to go and used some more balance and waited for the back end to correct.

But I don't have those skills. I'm interested in your advice, but it helps if the advice is given in a context that I can apply and understand it.

So the backwheel locks up when you change down (to first gear???). What to do? Change back up!

Changing back up takes a long time when things are happening quickly. So I'll put you in the camp of suggesting engaging the clutch, followed by a gear change, effectively while waiting for the traction to return (aka, wheel speed increase enough again to start spinning).

More people are suggesting using the clutch and waiting it seems.

[Taz]

Someone on this thread has cried they are being abused, yet they use the words " daft prick" directed to someone else.

Take it elsewhere.

[Hahn]

So this is my question. Lets say you do experience a rear wheel lock through either a change down or compression lock (sorry Mom, still haven't figured out what that is yet), and especially considering your about to enter a corner, do you think your better to:

* Apply more power to start the wheel rotating again
* Engage the clutch so the wheel spins freely, but accept the bikes suspension will now be upset, the front wheel is suddenly going to load up, and as a result most of the bikes traction is going to now be reliant on the front wheel rather than split between the two.

My personal guess would be to apply more throttle, which is what I did. After reading the Keith Code books I think he would also agree.

However comments on here have me wondering if this was the wrong apporach. Your thoughts, and most importantly, why. And in case it varies between bikes, I'd prefer answers more tailored to a sports bike.

Turn it into a power slide! Rossi would!


But seriously, you should be able to cruise around at 5-6k rpm. Your bikes got plenty of power.

[sil3nt]

Did you seriously change down to first whilst entering a corner? 1st gear is good for acceleration from a stand still and thats about it. I would assume second gear should be able to pull strongly from anything over 20kph on most bikes!

[p.dath]

Did you seriously change down to first whilst entering a corner? 1st gear is good for acceleration from a stand still and thats about it. I would assume second gear should be able to pull strongly from anything over 20kph on most bikes!

1st gear is good through to a bit over 100km/h on my bike (on the 250 you have you probably find it is only good for a standing start). I wasn't travelling anywhere near that speed at the time though. 2nd gear would have been ok but would not have offered much power out of the corner.

[boomer]

1st gear is good through to a bit over 100km/h on my bike (on the 250 you have you probably find it is only good for a standing start). I wasn't travelling anywhere near that speed at the time though. 2nd gear would have been ok but would not have offered much power out of the corner.

yeah cos you need that acceleration when you're flat on ya ass huh?! or to sling shot out like Hagaa does.

Seriously, think about wtf it is your saying and doing....

[beyond]

If your rear slides out in gravel as a result of compression lockup, you quickly stand the bike up momentarily, the rear wheel will grip again and you re-enter the corner once more by dropping her in again once composed. This can be done quickly if you use counter steering, footpeg pressure, assuming you are a ball of the foot rider, and knee pressure on the tank.

This manouevre will still have you in your lane at the end of the move without having to enter the other lane if done correcltly.

[retro asian]

1st gear is good through to a bit over 100km/h on my bike

Glad to hear you're ok mate.
I dont' ride a sportsbike, but it's hard to see why you'd want to change down do 1st on the road...unless you're in a traffic jam??

Don't know if this works for you, but a game/exercise I find useful is to go through corners in a higher gear than I'm comfortable with. I found that I could quite easily take corners in 5th that I'd usually always use fourth for, and it helps improve my "smoother riding skills" as one can't so quickly get power back on tap. Also I can now stick my feet up on the highway bars, and ride in 5th for miles and miles

[Taz]

yeah cos you need that acceleration when you're flat on ya ass huh?! or to sling shot out like Hagaa does.

Seriously, think about wtf it is your saying and doing....

Take your meds Boomer.

[Bikemad]

yeah relax Boomer..............pass the cone mon..........i've just realised this thread has got to be a wind up ...........

[steve_t]

.i've just realised this thread has got to be a wind up ...........

What makes u say that?

[boomer]

meds taken.

WELL done D.Path, glad your ok and no one was hurt. Congratulations.

[Bikemad]

1st gear is good through to a bit over 100km/h on my bike (on the 250 you have you probably find it is only good for a standing start). I wasn't travelling anywhere near that speed at the time though. 2nd gear would have been ok but would not have offered much power out of the corner.

coz in one breath hes sayin hes really safe,responsible and at the back at track days and on rides etc,next breath hes droppin into first at 9k rpm approaching a corner on unfamilier public road coz he wants to get the power down etc...........is this what they teach at ART track days..............like i said im old and somewhat confused on this thread,doesnt stack up,must be a piss take.............i dont mind tho.........got my post count up......and he wasnt hurt for the experience............so lesson learned one hopes