What a knob: Came off today

[boomer]

Are you seriously saying that you dropped it into 1st at about 70kph so you had sufficient power to exit the corner....... but that you don't treat the road as a racetrack???????

Grow a fucking brain!

i'm surprised it took you so long... we've concluded the thread is a wind up.

no one would be so stupid as to start a thread like this. SHIRLEY ?!

[Katman]

no one would be so stupid as to start a thread like this. SHIRLEY ?!

Nothing much surprises me anymore.

[p.dath]

Just wondering why someone who is a fairly conservative would be worried about having max power avaliabe out of the corner. I would have thought that being in the upper power/rev range could pose even more of a problem than not enough.I guess i am just a bit of a lazy rider and by no means very experianced, I enter a corner slow and exit slow often only in the 3-4k rev range.My point is.... i dont know, just trying to weed out the bullshit and extract the useful info.

Not so much max power; but wanting to maintain a positive throttle throughout the corner. The Keith Code books talk about this quite a bit as well (I refer your attention to "A Twist of the wrist II", chapter 5 - Throttle control).

He discusses what he calls "street lazy" riders who delay applying positive throttle till 2/3 of the way through the corner.
Basically the theory is if you take the total contact patch of both your tyres, you optimally want 40% of the total contact patch being made with the front tyre, and 60% wth the rear tyre. This gives you the most grip. And you can only achieve this by having positive throttle.
He says you should be on positive throttle as soon as you can - don't wait till the apex. He basically infers that "lazy street riders" get away with it a lot of the time - until they need the extra grip.
Keith Code also discusses many of the other benefits of positive throttle control, such as settling the suspension down, improving handling, etc. I'm not going to re-produce the chapter, but invite those interested to read it for themselves. The Keith Code books are quite cheap to buy from amazon.com.

But I didn't do things right, because I came off. Pretty obvious really. I am definitely going to be continuing to use positive throttle on corners, as everything I've read and been told suggest this is best. But perhaps I need to consider not putting myself in the place of needing to blip so hard. In my case, I should probably have just remained in second.

[kiwifruit]

I like a laugh

[Bikemad]

ha ha ha ha ha oh man...........now i know this is a wind up
dude.........dont believe everything you read............get rid of the book...........listen to frosty and consult your mentor,unless he put you onto the book in which case get a new munter i mean mentor

[boomer]

dude... the way your mind works is a law unto itself.

[boomer]

I like a laugh

i love a fruit !!! a kiwifruit

[Bikemad]

i got it............your the David Brent of KB............magic

[Bikemad]

Not so much max power; but wanting to maintain a positive throttle throughout the corner. The Keith Code books talk about this quite a bit as well (I refer your attention to "A Twist of the wrist II", chapter 5 - Throttle control).

He discusses what he calls "street lazy" riders who delay applying positive throttle till 2/3 of the way through the corner.
Basically the theory is if you take the total contact patch of both your tyres, you optimally want 40% of the total contact patch being made with the front tyre, and 60% wth the rear tyre. This gives you the most grip. And you can only achieve this by having positive throttle.
He says you should be on positive throttle as soon as you can - don't wait till the apex. He basically infers that "lazy street riders" get away with it a lot of the time - until they need the extra grip.
Keith Code also discusses many of the other benefits of positive throttle control, such as settling the suspension down, improving handling, etc. I'm not going to re-produce the chapter, but invite those interested to read it for themselves. The Keith Code books are quite cheap to buy from amazon.com.

But I didn't do things right, because I came off. Pretty obvious really. I am definitely going to be continuing to use positive throttle on corners, as everything I've read and been told suggest this is best. But perhaps I need to consider not putting myself in the place of needing to blip so hard. In my case, I should probably have just remained in second.

ever heard the saying
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

[p.dath]

This is quite a good post about why you should be using positive throttle into a corner, the effect of the rear end rising and the steering sharpening. It also talks about gentle throttle roll on (avoid compression lock as mentioned by Mom):
http://www.singaporebikes.com/forums...4&postcount=40

[boomer]

Here's my advice to you, be set up for the corner way in advance (you and the bike). Slow in, fast out.

Then, when you're confidence and basic handling skills have grown some, you can practice road craft...

[Motu]

wanting to maintain a positive throttle throughout the corner.
you should be on positive throttle as soon as you can - don't wait till the apex. .

It doesn't mean getting hard on the gas,it's only just a lifting of the throttle,and then gradually applying more.It's a subtle thing,doing it at 9 grand in 1st gear is not subtle.

[YellowDog]

I would suggest that with all this practical reading PD will eventually evolve into a an excellent motorcycle rider.
(just hope he manages to cross that chasm)

[p.dath]

ever heard the saying
a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

Alas (unless you choose to learn nothing) everyone has to start with a small seed of knowledge until it grows.

Here's my advice to you, be set up for the corner way in advance (you and the bike). Slow in, fast out.

Then, when you're confidence and basic handling skills have grown some, you can practice road craft...

You are of course, correct. The difficulty with confidence is knowing when you over-estimate it - but luckily a non-injury accident helps reset that.

[SixPackBack]

I would suggest that with all this practical reading PD will eventually evolve into a an excellent motorcycle rider.
(just hope he manages to cross that chasm)

You think?.....I predict that if his ability to over analyse extended to sex, that post coitus his victim would lie totally unsatisfied while he washes his cock with Dettol.