They are not all bad cops

[3umph]

Yup ya just pays ya speeding tax and move on. Anyone who can afford that just pays it.

Thats not the problem.

The problems are, roughly ;

Cops being involved in car crashes and using their experience and police resources to weasel out of paying up.

Cops knocking bikers off, and using etc etc as above.

Cops doing dangerous shit on the road and using police resources to, ala rinse and repeat as above.

Cops making up new laws ad-hoc (must stop for three seconds at stop sign, must put feet down etc) and purporting to enforce the law with them, when it's clearly bullshit.

Cops randomly stopping bikers and insisting said biker rode down this and that road at alleged dangerous speeds etc etc, with three other po po cars pulling up and saying "yeah thats him" and writing him a mountainous ticket for it and then lying in court about it.

Heard enough?

Thats the problem.

Steve

And this would happen how many time compared to all the stuff done buy the book??? f all... it's just we hear about it all the time when it does

[awayatc]

so right or accept the consequences....

the two of you will have such a great time .....
but nobody left to tell you what to do

[pc220]

Hey DB gotta wonder why you even bothered calling the police when there was a scary man on your section.Seen as you have such a low regard for them. Or did you put on your meek and mild I dont have a keyboard to hid behind face that day.

[Bikemad]

i got pinged just before cheviot comin home from the BURT a couple of years ago..........127 passin cars on passin lanes,nice sunny day etc..............i made a lame attempt at humour and clemency sayin...."aww come on...its been a great trip so far...you dont wanna ruin it by giving me a ticket do you......."
He did.....but wrote it dowm to 119 ks saving me 15 demerit points...........I too thanked him for a fair deal i thought.Then had a chat for ten minutes about bikes etc.
A decent bloke doing an otherwise thankless task

[mashman]

Me too, pinged on the way back from the vincent county rally a few years ago. Those long stretches of road by the vineyards outside of Blenheim, no traffic, the 1000 yard stare of a tired fella almost at the ferry and a mufti coming in the opposite direction. Boing lights, aaaahhhh 135, pull over. No he asked me how quickly i was going (gotta think that's a trick question). I said "125?"and he agreed in a slightly reluctant tone... he was a fuckin good fella, we talked when i got off the bike, talked after the ticket and i dare venture that if he had been in the car himself he MAY have let me off with it, as he was in no hurry to take his pad out! But hey, it coulda been much worse.

[Bikemad]

wolfie smith...........geez that takes me back......wonder if theres someepisodes on you tube

[peasea]

The police are our friends..........

[peasea]

I'm a speeder... I got coped... and I thanked him for a job well done...

Did he thank you for your contribution to the Consolidated Fund? (No discretion being exercised there eh?)

Of course he was nice to you, he was emptying your wallet and yes, that's his job. You say in your story that there was nothing on the road, so where's the danger in rolling along at 119kph?

Travelling at that insane pace you'll kill us all, you know.

[peasea]

one should obey the law of the land or leave the land!

[Bikemad]

should read...........Adam Ant....cowboy faggot

[marty]

A friends Daughter and her mates went out to the pub and had one or two too many. Stumbled out of the pub acting rowdy and the likes and got into their car. Cops sitting across the road watched all this and as she drove out of the carpark, they nabbed them and she got done for DIC. Fair enough, silly twit should know better. Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned, but wouldn't it have been better for them (cops) to have confronted silly drunk twats and pointed out the consequence of what they were just about to do. They would have shat themselves and certainly would have taken the hint.
Both approaches, watch them get in the car and then nick them or putting the hard word on them before they drove would have either way stopped a drunk driver. So why the exercise in entrapment in preference to a little bit of preventative maintenance?

From experience, that might work 1% of the time. The other 99%, the driver will just say 'oh we are waiting for our sober driver' and the cop can do nothing. In fact, even sitting in the car with the keys in the ignition is sometimes not enough to prove intent. the cop might as well walk into the bar and say 'don't drink and drive' for all the effect that the carpark discussion will have. now i know the result of letting someone drive off and missing them, but when it comes to reasoning with people that have been drinking - the punitive instead of proactive message is the one that gets through.

[AD345]

The coppers can't win for losing

I know why they don't arm the NZ police

the temptation to mow down the sanctimonious fuckwits like this one would be irresistible


(oh yes - that means that if you agree with Mr MacGregor , you're a sanctimonious fuckwit too)

[Mikkel]

the two of you will have such a great time .....
but nobody left to tell you what to do

Indeed, no reason to think for yourself once you've instated authorities that are itching to do it for you. Does away with personal responsibility to a degree as well, which is excellent. So much easier to elicit sympathy for one's shortcomings if you can blame someone else, right?

My working hypothesis is that the steady stream of celebrity news and soy-milk lattes is slowly, but surely, turning people's brains into mush.

You are free to do what we tell you:

[Genie]

The coppers can't win for losing

I know why they don't arm the NZ police

the temptation to mow down the sanctimonious fuckwits like this one would be irresistible


(oh yes - that means that if you agree with Mr MacGregor , you're a sanctimonious fuckwit too)

Who is Mr MacGregor and does he have a lovely garden?????

[Grubber]

Er your derogatory mouth is shooting itself off again. Does it do that often?

No one said it happens every day. When it does happen, it shouldn't. Even the police agree that it shouldn't. Read here from a police officer saying the same thing ;
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...post1129624123

Steve

Your right..it shouldn't. We often spend our time at over 100kph and we shouldn't, but we do. When i get caught i take the fine with a smile and remain couteous , as i would with any person i meet. I have never ever had any problem with them in 30+ years of riding. On the other hand if you want to develop an attitude with them...ahhh well, good luck to ya i say. Not sure that arriving with said attitude is going to get ya too far right from the get go.