Recession bites

**slofox** · 6th February 2010, 13:45

Originally Posted by rainman

I've been watching the job boards for a while and there are regular hort job ads, at least up in Auckland. They all call for Hort 4 and spraying certs, and pay like shit, but they're work. I'd assume there would be more hort jobs in the Waikato? Or maybe across towards Tauranga if you have the option to move? But yeah, failing which, there's always Northland and the other green economy....

Alternatively maybe you should rebrand and start selling cheap shit booze in quantity? I assume people are still drinking, recessions typically don't slow that down... Or link up with the local Scottish society?

To be honest, horticulture would be my last choice - I spent eighteen years in that area and vowed never to spray another plant again once I got out...as for cheap shit booze? I still some vestigial principles intact, dammit...

Originally Posted by Southmotian

At least house prices haven't bombed. Assuming you didn't buy in 07 you should come out in the black

And home ownership is overrated unless you're seeing good capital gains, which I think is unlikely in near future. I reckon you're selling up at a good time

/my2c

I bought six years ago. Will sell for near 50% better than I bought so not all bad...

Originally Posted by FROSTY

have you thought about the shop within a shop idea?? The "big" shop sells the bread n butter and then within it is the stuff you are passionate about.

See above - vestigial principles etc...

Overall there are far too many licences out there in the Tron - it's a wonder anyone makes a bob out of it any more in the face of cut-price supermarket bastards. This weekend, Prog supers advertised... "At least 50% off all wine in store". Then in tiny letters underneath "we support responsible drinking". Yeah. Right. Fuck off.

**golfmade** · 6th February 2010, 13:54

Sorry to hear it. Plenty of friends back in the States having similar trouble.

If times get really bad you could always move here and teach English to hyperactive kids

**Edbear** · 6th February 2010, 14:16

Sorry to hear of your situation, mate. It's a general problem and anyone who says the recession is over should just look at the WINZ stats. I was laid off a job with a major telco last May and couldn't even get a job pumping gas.

For the last 6 months I've been working for virtually nothing, relying on my wife's wages and an accomodation supplement form WINZ to get by. We still have the house but it's been hard going. However the business I've been working on is starting to come together and this year is looking good thanks to a business plan that impressed the bank manager enough for him to back us up and buy us time, otherwise we might have had to sell up and downsize to a cheaper home, not easy to find in this area.

Things are going to be tight for the next couple of months or so, but there is light at the end. We are fortunate to be in a fairly recession-proof industry.

As disappointed as I was to lose a job I enjoyed and was good at, I do feel that it is true, as one door closes another opens and if you're flexible and willing to take on a new challenge you should survive. Look at poor old Ian Fergusson facing the loss of his business. He'll come through though I'm sure, and so will you.

Certainly take advice from "those who know about these things", which I have been careful to do and have received good support from not only the bank manager but also successul businessmen. Networking is essential these days and you never know who may know someone.

All the best!

**pzkpfw** · 6th February 2010, 18:37

Read a book once (or rather a co-worker who read it told me all about it). It was a study of American millionaires.

Pretty much every statistics turned out to be an 80 / 20 kind of thing.

80% of people who inherited a million, lost it.
80% of people who were millionaires, earned it.

And maybe this is "helpful" or not:

80% of millionaires had been bankrupt at least once.

I've got a lot of respect for the small business person - it's not easy.

Hope it all works out well. I'm sure you'll eventually get where you want to be.

**98tls** · 6th February 2010, 19:09

What can i say other than by the grace of god mate,we wish you all the luck in the world resolving this.You have always struck me as a good bastard so hopefully you get the good fortune you deserve.All the best eh.

**Motu** · 6th February 2010, 20:04

It's tough trying to sell quality in this country...or world.Just look at this site - everyone want cheap tyres,cheap boots,cheap gloves,cheap bikes,cheap parts.....it's all got to cheap or they aren't interested.Keep a box of good red to carry you through the tough times.

Can I come and help with the good box of red?

**boman** · 6th February 2010, 20:15

It dosn't help you at all unfortunatly, but this quote is quite true especialy in NZ.

"If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price.
If you can be satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse;

that comes a little cheaper."

I hope it all comes good for you.

**EJK** · 6th February 2010, 20:29

Originally Posted by pzkpfw

Read a book once (or rather a co-worker who read it told me all about it). It was a study of American millionaires.

Pretty much every statistics turned out to be an 80 / 20 kind of thing.

80% of people who inherited a million, lost it.
80% of people who were millionaires, earned it.

And maybe this is "helpful" or not:

80% of millionaires had been bankrupt at least once.

I've got a lot of respect for the small business person - it's not easy.

Hope it all works out well. I'm sure you'll eventually get where you want to be.

Henry Ford got bankrupt 5 times but end up net worth $188 Billion USD.
But that's Henry Ford

**Latte** · 6th February 2010, 20:37

Yeah we have gone from a business that supplied toys and income, to just income, then no income, now sucking money like it;s going out of fashion. We are culling 50% of our income but clulling 60% of our costs as well, so hopefully we can turn it around. It's a real shame but "cest la vie" - you have your health (I hope) and your bike - keep smiling

**Usarka** · 10th April 2011, 14:21

Slowfox - Bro you still in the shop I need to stock up on some piss now that i gotz a job auw. Looking to stock the bottom shelf of the wine rack for some "keepers"

I'm not sure if you have what I'm after but good to buy from a good cnut if i can.

If so, 1) do you have an internets site, and b) can you ship to arsebiscuitland?

Chur