False radar beams?

**3umph** · 8th February 2010, 10:20

Originally Posted by Jantar

Is there also one on the motorway into Christchurch from the north? My detector always goes off at the same spot and I haven't seen a cop there yet.

There is actually one at each end of the northern motorway... but the one by the waimak bridge is the one thats on the most...

Have a good look at the pole that its/they are on... It also has a video camera on it and my guess its hooked to the traffic monitoring in central...
I did a job at central in one of there camera monitering rooms and was amazed at the clear quality and zoom distance these cameras have!!!

Never heard of anyone getting a ticket in the mail from them but I suppose it could be possible...

**scumdog** · 8th February 2010, 17:27

Originally Posted by MSTRS

Yep. ACC's first guideline is 'accident prevention'.
But unless these devices are moved about the place, I think TheBoyWhoCriedWolf will be paying a visit to regular motorists in those areas.

Then they cunningly move it elsewhere and put a REAL device in its place....

**peasea** · 8th February 2010, 19:25

Originally Posted by red mermaid

So to paraphrase...speed causes you to do silly things that endanger you and others.

Fucking bullshit.
"Speed causes you to do silly things.." What utter nonsense.

People do silly things at walking pace ya knob. (Well, I suppose that's a speed of a certain amount.)

Speed doesn't 'cause' anyone to do anything. Get a grip. The results of doing something stupid at high speed could have dire consequences, yes. Just as doing something stupid at 20kph going around a roundabout or through a stop sign. The greater the speed the more dire the consequences of stupid actions. Prevent stupid actions and I am willing to bet that speed (high speed) won't be an issue when conditions suit.

180kph in the middle of butt-fuck nowhere didn't cause ME to do anything silly on Sunday, nor my riding buddy nor the people in the Holden in front of us.

**Dino** · 9th February 2010, 06:50

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3306...fool-motorists

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**CookMySock** · 9th February 2010, 07:59

Originally Posted by Dino

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3306...fool-motorists

Cool! Inside that waterproof box must be a complete Ka band radar unit.. that makes it quite a stealable unit doesn't it! And sooo easy to access too - mounted on poles out in the middle of nowhere. I first assumed they really were "drones" - just worthless transmitters, but they are in fact complete Microwave Doppler Radars. Nice.

Steve

**Swoop** · 9th February 2010, 08:18

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10625027

**Scuba_Steve** · 9th February 2010, 08:29

I see ACC are trying to increase their client base by installing dummy cameras.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/3306...fool-motorists
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...0625027&pnum=0

Now every study I've ever seen (& probably ever done) shows speed traps (fake or not) increase accidents rates, hence why the Police like to associate their scam with death tolls rather than accident rates (which would be a more accurate comparison) as the safety devices in vehicles are bringing down the death toll so it looks "good" whereas the speed traps are increasing the accident rates that doesn't look so good for their money making scam.
Now the ACC have joined in making our roads more unsafe too, the worst part is its our money paying to make the roads more unsafe & they're trying to get even more again from us (us being vehicle users of any sort). This is not only a huge waste of money but also it endangers the Lives of every New Zealander and I think this is totally unacceptable.

**Azi Dahaka** · 9th February 2010, 08:30

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10625027

cheaky sods

**MaxB** · 9th February 2010, 08:32

Hmm, the units look like they have been removed from their enclosures. I wonder whether ACC have got clearance from a radiological protection agency like the Natoinal Radiation Laboratory? I'll bet those cheap bastards haven't bothered.

**Pixie** · 9th February 2010, 08:35

I wonder if they are Safety Warning System units.Any one with SWS on their detector will be able to tell.
SWS has been around for years.It gives warning of accidents and road works from mobile beacons and can include voice messages.I often get SWS beeps from US made tractors as they have SWS beacons as standard equipment.
One gave me warning of a John Deere around the next bend ,just the other day.

NZ authorities (police) where offered SWS beacons for free by the manufacturers some years ago,but declined because they thought that it would encourage and legitimise radar detector ownership.And they aren't interested in safety anyway,just revenue collection.

**smoky** · 9th February 2010, 08:38

I'm sure one turned up on the Southern motorway just prior to heading up the Bombays - about 6 months ago it happened

Radar detecters do slow traffic down, they go off with oncoming traffic (with radars) and some trucks and tractors, gas stations, some shops and alarm systems....... it all causes you to back off and eventually you do end up driving a bit slower - so why would they want to ban radar detecters? Oh that's right...... it would eat into their revenue gathering

**Pixie** · 9th February 2010, 08:40

Originally Posted by Ixion

I am becoming somewhat disillusioned with the whole training thing. The problem is that the great majority of crashes (both bikes and cars) are not due to the driver lacking the skill to adequately control the vehicle. They are caused by people (both cagers and bikers) doing bloody stupid shit.

Take for instance that perennial, the driver (or rider) crossing the centre line through a bend . Mostly (not always, granted) the solution to that is not to train the driver/rider how to go round corners better. The solution is for the driver/rider not to attempt to go rounds corners at such bloody silly speeds. I guarantee that 9 times out of 10 if you asked the centre line crosser "how did that happen" , if they were honst they would reply "oh I was trying to see how fast I could go". There are exceptions, where a corner is deceptive, and training would help, but mostly it is just people being fools.

And the head on crashes when people overtake - what training is going to rectify that.

You can't train people not to be fools. They know they ought not to do it, but do it anyway.

Four wheel crossing of the centerline in corner is nearly always laziness.I have never followed a vehicle that crossed the centerline and was not able to go faster through that corner without crossing it.

**PrincessBandit** · 9th February 2010, 08:50

Interesting that school bus companies have bought some. Surely they shouldn't need them? (asked while thinking about putting tongue in cheek)
At least it's out in the open now and people are aware of it. What they then do or don't do about it is their business.