Getting fired

[Slyer]

Exactly. The official "You're Fired" almost only exist on the TV Program. I once had a colleague (didn't like him very much) who stole promotional stuffs and still didn't end up getting fired. Walked away with only simple warning.

In America you can get fired on the spot if I recall correctly, different to here.

[SMOKEU]

I think you have just answered your own question there.

but it sounds like the manager wants you gone and is using the store manager as an excuse, all of what he says is hearsay as it is from someone else and even if someone else hears him say that it doesn't count.
i.

I get on quite well with my manager and I know that she likes having me as an employee. She would not try to terminate my contract. It's the store manager that is using any possible excuse to get rid of me.

[BoristheBiter]

I get on quite well with my manager and I know that she likes having me as an employee. She would not try to terminate my contract. It's the store manager that is using any possible excuse to get rid of me.

well don't worry, as i stated above unless you have done something bad then he just can't fire you like that even if you didn't give the correct amount of time for shift change. thats only a written warning at best. even then they can't hold back your holiday pay.
So i think it comes down to if you want to keep the job or not, and i have allways found it's easyer to find another job while you still have one.

[EJK]

In America you can get fired on the spot if I recall correctly, different to here.

I never worked outside of NZ so God knows

[crazyhorse]

well don't worry, as i stated above unless you have done something bad then he just can't fire you like that even if you didn't give the correct amount of time for shift change. thats only a written warning at best.
So i think it comes down to if you want to keep the job or not, and i have allways found it's easyer to find another job while you still have one.

Since the employment contacts came into force, it is actually quite difficult to fire someone. They have to dot their "i's" and cross their "t's", otherwise you can have them. Good luck and hope it works out for you SMOKEU

[Ixion]

In America you can get fired on the spot if I recall correctly, different to here.

It varies from state to state, but in some (probably most) states , yes.

[BoristheBiter]

Since the employment contacts came into force, it is actually quite difficult to fire someone. They have to dot their "i's" and cross their "t's", otherwise you can have them.

Tell me about it. thats why i stopped employing.

[Latte]

Since the employment contacts came into force, it is actually quite difficult to fire someone. They have to dot their "i's" and cross their "t's", otherwise you can have them. Good luck and hope it works out for you SMOKEU

As long as you follow the process (crossing your I's and dotting your T's - intentional). You can fire people for some pretty minor reasons. But the whole written warnings, giving the employee the oppurtinity to see thge error of their ways etc still stands.

[crazyhorse]

As long as you follow the process (crossing your I's and dotting your T's - intentional). You can fire people for some pretty minor reasons. But the whole written warnings, giving the employee the oppurtinity to see thge error of their ways etc still stands.

Yeah, but for the Employer, you gotta make sure its all done the right way.... and often they can't be bothered, incase mistakes get made and its ends up biting you in the arse!

[crazyhorse]

Tell me about it. thats why i stopped employing.

Sometimes its easier to hope that the employee hates it at work bad enough that they will be the one who opts to leave and then wholla...... problem solved

[BoristheBiter]

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Yeah, but for the Employer, you gotta make sure its all done the right way.... and often they can't be bothered, incase mistakes get made and its ends up biting you in the arse!

i have found it is easyer to get people to leave, give them shit jobs and be on there back, then to fire some one.

Beat me too it

[crazyhorse]

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i have found it is easyer to get people to leave, give them shit jobs and be on there back, then to fire some one.

Beat me too it

Nah, just on the same wavelength LOL

[Latte]

Yeah, but for the Employer, you gotta make sure its all done the right way.... and often they can't be bothered, incase mistakes get made and its ends up biting you in the arse!

Yep agreed, theres a lot of procedure to go through to even get to the point of considering firing someone, but if you follow it the underlying reason is not important - even firing for "lack of confidence" (how generic is that) is quite possible.Anything remotely resembling "on the spot" firing is REALLY hard.
And even if you follow the rules, if the employee makes a complaint buckle up for a bumpy (and expensive) ride.

[crazyhorse]

Yep agreed, theres a lot of procedure to go through to even get to the point of considering firing someone, but if you follow it the underlying reason is not important - even firing for "lack of confidence" (how generic is that) is quite possible.Anything remotely resembling "on the spot" firing is REALLY hard.
And even if you follow the rules, if the employee makes a complaint buckle up for a bumpy (and expensive) ride.

So therefore, my point being, as an employee, you are fairly ok, because you can cause the employer alot of worry or stress, mostly if they want to try to go down that avenue - it could be quite arduous.

[GOONR]

So therefore, my point being, as an employee, you are fairly ok, because you can cause the employer alot of worry or stress, mostly if they want to try to go down that avenue - it could be quite arduous.

Especially, as an employee, if they know you have access to good legal advice.