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Thread: $1000 fine for 'cruising' boy racers affect bikers in Christchurch too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davereid View Post
    I didn't see the bit about being in convoy and excessive noise before.

    I guess I'm just old enough to have watched NZ (and more so the UK and AUS), quietly morph from countries where its citizens had rights to countries where they don't.

    Once upon a time there was a presumption of innocence, and an important principle that you don't get punished unless you are proven in court to have committed a crime.

    We dumped that one with earlier boy racer legislation. Now you lose your licence and car if the policeman alleges you lost traction. No mucking around with the courts there !

    In the UK you no longer have the right to remain silent, and a majority verdict in a trial will do !

    I completely sympathise with the poor old residents of Christchurch, who quiet correctly have had enough. And I can't offer a better solution.

    But a law like this could affect bikers on a group run, it could affect a group of motor-caravanners looking for a park, or a poker run car rally etc etc etc.

    When we approve it by saying "yes we fit the definition sometimes, but they aren't looking for us, we are only on a poker run..." we have let our guard down, and may one day come to regret it.
    I agreee - the littkle fuckers are annoying, but hey who was not young once right? My dad (and most older people) were probably not completely happy with the stunts I pulled too...
    I guess their dads pay taxes and they are allowed to use the streets too.

    Point is that laws that take away individual freedom are insiduous, and give unwarranted power to cops and lawmakers without checks and balances. In the worlds of Karl Marx "Absolute power corrupts absolutely".

    I challenge anyone to show me a scenario where this result did not happen as a result of absolute power. From the Nazi's, to USA as the last superpower throwing its weight around, to Bob Mugabe. Its always a big FUCKUP.

    If they are irritating, fine so what - deal with it and get over it. Like the mature people you propose to be. But coming up with "good 'ol boys rules" that are only intended to apply to some and for that reason are left open ended is not a solution. Because one day you are the hunter, and the next day you are the hunted.
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    No Cruising Zone begins...

    Well what a mess this bylaw has created, innocent motorists being charged while out looking for a park for dinner, mothers being harassed by the 'filth' for going down to the dairy twice to get the bread they forgot on their first trip, the courts are over-flowing with examples of normal road users caught up in this mess, and the boy racers still wreck havoc every night through town.




    Oh, wait, hang on. My bad, seem as though I had my facts mixed up. No abuse of the powers handed to the police, and I haven't seen anywhere near the level of traffic on weekend nights that we used to experience.

    Give them time though, I'm sure the police are just waiting for the right time to start charging everyday citizens with cruising for a car park.

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    ....even my Humber 80 got the "cooper s" muffler , ''mod", back when I was a young clown with a car...thank fuck it was slow and bounced off heavy objects....

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    Quote Originally Posted by onearmedbandit View Post
    Well what a mess this bylaw has created, innocent motorists being charged while out looking for a park for dinner, mothers being harassed by the 'filth' for going down to the dairy twice to get the bread they forgot on their first trip, the courts are over-flowing with examples of normal road users caught up in this mess, and the boy racers still wreck havoc every night through town.




    Oh, wait, hang on. My bad, seem as though I had my facts mixed up. No abuse of the powers handed to the police, and I haven't seen anywhere near the level of traffic on weekend nights that we used to experience.

    Give them time though, I'm sure the police are just waiting for the right time to start charging everyday citizens with cruising for a car park.

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    Oh you can bet if there had been any abuse of the new powers then this thread would've been resurrected a long time back. I just so happened to be driving past one of the signs erected around town and it reminded me how we haven't had any issues with this law. And I don't foresee any either.

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    I've heard of the occasional pizza delivery guy being questioned about frequent visits to a street. That'll always happen until they bring back the roof-mount phones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mully Clown View Post
    I've heard of the occasional pizza delivery guy being questioned about frequent visits to a street. That'll always happen until they bring back the roof-mount phones.
    Half of those guys are boy racers themselves tho. They certainly drive like it anyway lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder View Post
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