Speeding cops

[dpex]

The relentless message is, 'Speed Kills'. And that's the justification for cops to hand out tickets, right?

Tonight I was wandering down Edmonton Rd (here in West Auckland) in my cage, heading home after a long day. I hear a siren, then around a completely blind bend, peppered with driveways, comes a cop car. It was doing well into 80Ks. Lights flashing, sirens going.

Now then. I'm supposed to negotiate such bends at 50Ks max, on the basis there might be kids on bikes, folk turning in or out of driveways, or some other poor fluke on the road ahead.

Yet this cop car whistles around this bend at 80Ks plus.

Obviously, the officers are attending upon an emergency. But then I asked, what nature of emergency has it to be to enable a cop car driver to drive as such an insane speed?

Is it a traffic accident? Is it a murder? A rape, perhaps? Maybe some scumbag approaching a child. Maybe there's some guy with a gun, holding up a McDonalds....although he'd probably be there to exact utu for getting food poisoning.

So let's have a look at the possible scanarios which could possibly allow a cop car to drive at such insane speeds.

Surely, the event would have to be 'happening' right then, and that the only solution for the cops would have to be 'there' ASAP.

But what sort of event would it have to be?

A traffic accident? Give me a break. The accident has already happened so what's the hurry?

Some guy with a gun doing strange things? So what's the hurry? The some guy is going to be there doing strange things for ages.

A child molster who has fled in his car? Which way has he fled?

The possibilities regarding the 'apparent' urgency of this cop car getting to another point are endless.

Now consider justification.

There is one thing you can be assured of. In tomorrow's papers there will be no reports of men with guns, child-molesters fleeing, or any other such intensely urgent requirement for the cops to be there and, therefore justify the madness of this cop driver.

No. These pricks, like so many cops with sirens and lights, showed a complete disregard for the safety of others because they could. They're cops, in a cop car, going at insane speeds through blind corners simply because their pathetic egos said they could.

It was a traffic car. And I'll lay odds the driver would not hesitate to pull you up for doing 1K over the allowable fudge limit, and then tell you you're a danger to society.

As these shits went by I wondered what would have happened had I been turning right into a driveway on this blind corner. They would have trashed me and blamed it on an 'emergency' call.

I ask again. What possible emergency could allow a cop car to ravel at such an insane speed in a dangerous, built-up area?

I can't think of one.

Having considered all this, I'd like to ask you all a question:

Please provide me with a reason so compelling which requires cops to speed.

I can think of doctors having a justifiable reason to speed, and ambulances, and fire engines, but they're not allowed to speed. But cops are?

I can't think of one good reason why cops are entitled to speed. Yet the bastards do, then have the effrontery to tell me I'm a bad person when I copy what they do.

[onearmedbandit]

I can think of doctors having a justifiable reason to speed, and ambulances, and fire engines, but they're not allowed to speed. But cops are?

I can't think of one good reason why cops are entitled to speed. Yet the bastards do, then have the effrontery to tell me I'm a bad person when I copy what they do.

Um, ambulances and fire engines are allowed to speed. Also, growing up in a smal town outside of ChCh I remember the local GP's speeding, same as the volunter fire fighters, in their own cars. My father explained that they had their lights on high during the day to alert other drivers, and as long as they weren't dangerous the police would not stop them.

Back to your point. I don't think that if my 3yr old daughter had been abducted and the police were informed of the cars description and location that I'd be happy knowing they were making good progress at 50km/h, observing all red lights. Cos why should the bastards get to run red lights as well, after all I'm not allowed to. It's just not fair.

And surely this is just a wind up. You must be quite bored to have tapped that all out just to do some fishing.

[grusomhat]

Ambulances and Fire engines can speed AFAIK there's a limit though.

While I've had the same thought that you have, I've come up with some reasons why they can speed. For one they have flashing lights and sirens and secondly the drivers are highly trained and go through some pretty extensive driver training. Both of which means that they can safely travel faster than the posted speed limit. What makes 50 such a safe speed for a built up area?

I'm not advocating that they should have the right to speed excessively and when they do it should be highly dependent on the situation but fuck me, they are doing a job that will quite often need a quick response. As you said, you don't know what they were attending so to assume that their speed wasn't necessary is a little naive.

TLDR: Situation dependent they have the ability to travel faster than the posted speed limit safely.

[Jonno.]

When was the last child or even pedestrian killed because of the situation you just outline.
Has there been any?
Would they have been saved from going 50k?

[Spearfish]

I could have been all the above, coms gives them the job and what priority its at and off they go. Could be a boy with a stick the neighbours think is a gun or it could be another blue baby... how many things can you imagine?

[popa griffin]

go through some pretty extensive driver training. Both of which means that they can safely travel faster than the posted speed limit.

Ha, if by extensive training you mean a week long fun week of racing around a purpose built track then sure. They have no extra awesome driving skills then what we do.

And if thats the case, why cant v8 super car drivers, rally drivers and so on go speeding everywhere?


That said. If i had a guy pointing a gun in my general direction, i wouldnt try hold onto the hope that he would be doing that for a while before shooting me, and would certianally hope the cops dont fuck about getting to helping me out.

[onearmedbandit]

Maybe because V8 Supercar drivers are not attending an emergency.

[mattian]

If that was a serious assault/rape on your mother, or other loved one they were attending too, they would'nt get there fast enough aye.

[Grubber]

Imagine the shite that would hit the whirry blowy thing if they were too late getting to the emergency.
FRONT PAGE NEWS! Lack of response by the police caused the death of ......

oh heres a stupid statement for ya

WHY SHOULD POLICE BE ABLE TO SPEED?

[BoristheBiter]

The relentless message is, 'Speed Kills'. And that's the justification for cops to hand out tickets, right?

Tonight I was wandering down Edmonton Rd (here in West Auckland) in my cage, heading home after a long day. I hear a siren, then around a completely blind bend, peppered with driveways, comes a cop car. It was doing well into 80Ks. Lights flashing, sirens going.

Now then. I'm supposed to negotiate such bends at 50Ks max, on the basis there might be kids on bikes, folk turning in or out of driveways, or some other poor fluke on the road ahead.

Yet this cop car whistles around this bend at 80Ks plus.

Obviously, the officers are attending upon an emergency. But then I asked, what nature of emergency has it to be to enable a cop car driver to drive as such an insane speed?

Is it a traffic accident? Is it a murder? A rape, perhaps? Maybe some scumbag approaching a child. Maybe there's some guy with a gun, holding up a McDonalds....although he'd probably be there to exact utu for getting food poisoning.

So let's have a look at the possible scanarios which could possibly allow a cop car to drive at such insane speeds.

Surely, the event would have to be 'happening' right then, and that the only solution for the cops would have to be 'there' ASAP.

But what sort of event would it have to be?

A traffic accident? Give me a break. The accident has already happened so what's the hurry?

Some guy with a gun doing strange things? So what's the hurry? The some guy is going to be there doing strange things for ages.

A child molster who has fled in his car? Which way has he fled?

The possibilities regarding the 'apparent' urgency of this cop car getting to another point are endless.

Now consider justification.

There is one thing you can be assured of. In tomorrow's papers there will be no reports of men with guns, child-molesters fleeing, or any other such intensely urgent requirement for the cops to be there and, therefore justify the madness of this cop driver.

No. These pricks, like so many cops with sirens and lights, showed a complete disregard for the safety of others because they could. They're cops, in a cop car, going at insane speeds through blind corners simply because their pathetic egos said they could.

It was a traffic car. And I'll lay odds the driver would not hesitate to pull you up for doing 1K over the allowable fudge limit, and then tell you you're a danger to society.

As these shits went by I wondered what would have happened had I been turning right into a driveway on this blind corner. They would have trashed me and blamed it on an 'emergency' call.

I ask again. What possible emergency could allow a cop car to ravel at such an insane speed in a dangerous, built-up area?

I can't think of one.

Having considered all this, I'd like to ask you all a question:

Please provide me with a reason so compelling which requires cops to speed.

I can think of doctors having a justifiable reason to speed, and ambulances, and fire engines, but they're not allowed to speed. But cops are?

I can't think of one good reason why cops are entitled to speed. Yet the bastards do, then have the effrontery to tell me I'm a bad person when I copy what they do.

What a complete arse thread.
I bet if you called the police and they took more then 5 mins to get to you you would complain.
Next time you need an emergancy service I hope they take hours to get to you.
No in fact i hope they just leave you there to think about how much you need them.

[SMOKEU]

If comms say that that a situation is a priority 1 then the po-po can drive to the emergency as fast as they like.

[Swoop]

A 50% discount sale at Dunkin' Donuts.

Obvious, isn't it!

[mashman]

I can't think of one good reason why cops are entitled to speed.

Because in lots of situations these days cops need to be on scene before the ambulance or fire engine are allowed to do their thing... and all because there are too many fuckwits having a pop at those who are there to help... seriously fuckin sickening...

[RT527]

Because in lots of situations these days cops need to be on scene before the ambulance or fire engine are allowed to do their thing... and all because there are too many fuckwits having a pop at those who are there to help... seriously fuckin sickening...

Since when was that brought in...if we get there first we get there first , same goes for ambulance we dont have to wait. unless we think our lives could be in danger ....but we never know that untill we get there.

[mashman]

Since when was that brought in...if we get there first we get there first , same goes for ambulance we dont have to wait. unless we think our lives could be in danger ....but we never know that untill we get there.

I'm wasn't saying that you couldn't/don't/won't at all, I was just saying that in certain situations that is the case. Therefore, and only imho, I would expect a police car to speed somewhere... especially if the request to be on scene has come from another emergency service.