Refuelling whilst still mounted

[Berries]

Unfortunately there have been far too many assaults on Station Attendants over the last years and their only hope is that the low-lifes will be put off by having to get their mugs on camera. If you are wearing your helmet you are not recogniseable and are therefore a potential threat.

Fair enough. I have always thought it is the perogative of the petrol station. But if the staff actually did their job with a bit of interest they may realise that the person in front of them with the helmet on just got off the bike at pump number three and was waving a 20 dollar note in front of them for 16 bucks of petrol. As opposed to the three guys with helmets on who have just got out of the back of a Ford Transit at pump six and not put any fuel in.

Seriously though, in this day and age, they should be able to link the video from the cashier to the forecourt and discount law abiding citizens who just happen to ride a motorbike. And have a gun under the counter to shoot anybody who rips them off, obviously.

[roogazza]

This has turned into a bit of an epic, huh Hitch ?
Initially, I thought with that title, it was about reaching for a beer when on the job !

[pc220]

If you have ever forgotten to tighten the petrol cap on a chainsaw before using it, you wouldnt stay on your bike while filling up. And I dont know about the rest of you but I feel like a real tool wondering around with my helmet on. Just as easy to take it off and get some fresh air for a few minutes, pick ya nose sort of thing.

[MarkH]

Why run the unnecessary risk? For those who want a read on cellphones...Urban myth maybe yes maybe no...The U tube one is quite good

Because of a faked youtube video we get harassed by service station attendants about our cellphones?

Generally snopes is pretty good and finding out what is what:
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

[swbarnett]

The nub of this issue comes down to the principle of personal responsibility. In other words "He who takes the risk makes the decision". From the posts in this thread the major concern seems to be petrol on your privates. Their my privates so I'll take whatever risk with them I see fit.

[Toaster]

Yeah but its still their petrol station.

[LBD]

Because of a faked youtube video we get harassed by service station attendants about our cellphones?

Generally snopes is pretty good and finding out what is what:
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

So I guess its all fine then, and the fire brigade members can start taking mobile phones and wear digital watches to LPG fires from now on as well?

[swbarnett]

Yeah but its still their petrol station.

OK, just for argument's sake, imagine if they started saying that you had to lie on the floor in front of the counter for 5 minutes before they would serve you? Would you blindly comply when you can see no reasonable reason to do so?

There's a limit to the hoops I'm willing to jump through just because I don't have my name on title deed to the land on which I happen to be standing.

[Big Dave]

>>There's a limit to the hoops I'm willing to jump through just because I don't have my name on title deed to the land on which I happen to be standing.<<'

Good! - now fuck off to the next service station then.

[MarkH]

So I guess its all fine then, and the fire brigade members can start taking mobile phones and wear digital watches to LPG fires from now on as well?

I really do have trouble imagining why they shouldn't - do you think that having a mobile phone in their pocket or a digital watch on their wrist really makes a noticeable difference to they amount of risk they are subject to?

Similarly when refuelling there are vehicles coming and going with their ignition systems in use and hot exhausts - meanwhile idiots are worried about my cellphone?

[.produKt]

I'd like to hear how the fuck you think i'm gonna fill up the tank of my Sach's Madas 125.
It's a Frame tank, 5.1 litres and only 4.8 get in there while its on it's side stand.....

[Big Dave]

Easy! Just leave it wedged in your butt crack and stand up.

[Big Dave]

Don't burn a valve prod - I was just kidding - I enjoy those small machines too - gave a Max Biaggi Replica 50cc Aprilia Scooter the Wally on Friday and thought it was great fun.

[Paul in NZ]

The nub of this issue comes down to the principle of personal responsibility. In other words "He who takes the risk makes the decision". From the posts in this thread the major concern seems to be petrol on your privates. Their my privates so I'll take whatever risk with them I see fit.

I understand what you are saying but in this case I think you are wrong.

Your risk taking could 'maybe' endanger others using the facility so the operator has to cover themselves by setting a standard. Personally, its not a biggie and if I have the open face on I don't bother but always take the full face off. I've worked in servos (old man owned a garage) and you can get nervy with some people so its good to have something to set a minimum standard.

[Toaster]

OK, just for argument's sake, imagine if they started saying that you had to lie on the floor in front of the counter for 5 minutes before they would serve you? Would you blindly comply when you can see no reasonable reason to do so?

There's a limit to the hoops I'm willing to jump through just because I don't have my name on title deed to the land on which I happen to be standing.

Its not an unreasonable request to ask us to dismount during fuelling. To ask us to lie on the floor for 5 minutes as you have posted has nothing to do with anything a petrol station could or would ever ask. Try harder for a more reasonable example, then you may have a worthy argument.

If you feel your liberty is violated by the requirement to hop off your bike to get a few more mils in your bike then carry on. Dont forget to leave your helmet on when you do your banking too. We are free to do whatever we choose, we are never free from the consequences, whether we agree with them or not.