Courteous cagers

**CookMySock** · 16th February 2010, 11:20

Originally Posted by duckonin

Your reply to Steve's post is worth +1

pfft, scaredy-cat putt-putt cruiser riders, stay in line and behave like a compliant little lemming, pat pat...

Steve

**Cracker** · 17th February 2010, 12:54

Too many biker meatheads slag off motorists. I reckon we are well treated by other road users and have taken to a courtousy wave for all the room they give me. Shit, even horsefloat drivers (the hippos of the roads) have got a little room for a bike to pass these days.

I'm starting to feel a little quilt when flying past seezed up motorists who probably don't even see you coming up there arse.

One thing hasn't changed and thats vehicles cutting corners on country roads

**slofox** · 17th February 2010, 13:55

Mmmm...I see many cage drivers who are courteous and thoughtful. But I do see a few fuckwits as well. Like everything I suppose - there's good and there's bad...

Re hellokitty's comment about d'Auckland drivers, I would just mention that lane splitting seems easier up there than here in my experience. The couple of times I have been on the southern at rush hour am, I have seen many drivers make way for lane splitters...as opposed to my experience here where drivers will deliberately try to block you out...or come screaming up inside you after the intersection...

**shrub** · 18th February 2010, 13:23

On any given day ride I'll experience cage drivers pulling over to let me past, chatting at gas stations and cafes and flashing their lights when there's a mobile revenue collector ahead. I would go as far as to say there are very few revenue collectors I don't get warned about and I have been saved thousands by good guys in cars.

The only consistently irritating people I see on the open road are tourists creeping in abject terror through windy roads in their rental cars - they never pull over or flag you through, but my guess is they're on the verge of evacuating their bowels from the fear of doing 70kmh, and the only scary people are tourists driving campervans that you should need an HT to drive on narrow back roads.

**SPman** · 18th February 2010, 15:57

Originally Posted by DangerousBastard

. Mmmmmm, the only thing better than a bunch of corners to carve is a line of cars to slay.

Steve

or...a couple of cars, followed by a corner, followed by another car, corner....car....corner.......line up - squirt - hard brake - corner - line up - squirt -...........
Kopu-Hikuai was good for that.

**shrub** · 20th February 2010, 11:57

I passed 4 sports bikes going the other way, and all waved. Just behind them was a car, he flashed his lights and gave me a slow down hand signal. A couple of ks later, just as I was about to turn into Tai Tapu a Harley flagged me down, and just round the corner was a revenue officer sitting just in the 50 k zone..

Sports bikes didn't warn me, but the cage driver and the Harley did.

**CookMySock** · 20th February 2010, 12:34

Originally Posted by SPman

or...a couple of cars, followed by a corner, followed by another car, corner....car....corner.......line up - squirt - hard brake - corner - line up - squirt -...........
Kopu-Hikuai was good for that.

That too!

@shrub, sometimes I won't warn people who are obviously putt-putting, but I'll always warn a group of sport bikers.

Steve

**Filter_nz** · 21st February 2010, 17:31

Just remember to give a wave if someone lets you through, esply if they're already doing the posted limit.

**Mikkel** · 21st February 2010, 21:27

Originally Posted by shrub

I passed 4 sports bikes going the other way, and all waved. Just behind them was a car, he flashed his lights and gave me a slow down hand signal. A couple of ks later, just as I was about to turn into Tai Tapu a Harley flagged me down, and just round the corner was a revenue officer sitting just in the 50 k zone..

Sports bikes didn't warn me, but the cage driver and the Harley did.

If the sportsbikes came via the Old Tai Tapu road they might not have seen the police. Dunno if that was the case, but a possibility.

One way not to impress car drivers is to overtake them moving into too narrow a space in front and then proceed to slow them down on the next 10 corners because you can't ride for shit. Just saying... no amount of tassles or fancy flags on your pillion's helmet will make it cool.

**Mikkel** · 21st February 2010, 21:27

Originally Posted by shrub

I passed 4 sports bikes going the other way, and all waved. Just behind them was a car, he flashed his lights and gave me a slow down hand signal. A couple of ks later, just as I was about to turn into Tai Tapu a Harley flagged me down, and just round the corner was a revenue officer sitting just in the 50 k zone..

Sports bikes didn't warn me, but the cage driver and the Harley did.

If the sportsbikes came via the Old Tai Tapu road they might not have seen the police. Dunno if that was the case, but a possibility.

One way not to impress car drivers is to overtake them moving into too narrow a space in front and then proceed to slow them down on the next 10 corners because you can't ride for shit. Just saying... no amount of tassles or fancy flags on your pillion's helmet will make it cool.

**barty5** · 22nd February 2010, 08:58

The other way to piss them off would be like some of the riders on Saturday doing the Coro loop heading down the coast. Ill be th 1st to admit that i like to throw the car in and around the corners something bout driving a nice big v8 and the sounds as you put your foot in to it down the straights and out of corners. But at least i stay on my side of the road!! on 4 different times in the space of less than 1/2 an hour i had bikes coming at me on my side of the road cause they where cutting blind corners at one point a group of 4 bike all trying to pass 3 cars up hill in my lane on a blind corner some people just need to think a little there are cars on the road as well. And then to give me the finger for it dang lucky i had a wedding to attend and didn't turn around.

**CookMySock** · 22nd February 2010, 09:14

Originally Posted by barty5

[..] on 4 different times in the space of less than 1/2 an hour i had bikes coming at me on my side of the road cause they where cutting blind corners at one point a group of 4 bike all trying to pass 3 cars up hill in my lane on a blind corner some people just need to think a little there are cars on the road as well. And then to give me the finger for it [....]

Sounds to me like you got pissed off and closed some gap up.

I often lane-share toward oncoming traffic, and generally I (and most others) have no problem with it except with two types of cager - the overtly-timid, where they dive into the hedge on their side of the road when they see me on or near the centreline, and the overtly-aggressive, who in a show of disapproval, point their vehicle straight at me as if it might control my actions somehow. Either way, it is of no consequence to me.

It is important to remember though, the roads are for all general laymen and consumer use - not just for experts, so it behooves the experts to not unduly frighten everyone else.

Steve

**barty5** · 22nd February 2010, 09:26

No i was staying as close to the left as reasonably possible givin there where so many bikes but when i drive im always looking ahead to check what is coming the other way and take a mental note of what you see coming like a check list as it goes by these guys where straight lining coming at me with not know or having anyway of knowning what was coming at them. Hey we all cut corners im just saying do it when you know there is nothing coming at you and you should need to use 3/4 on the on coming lane. End of the day we all got to or at least we did safely which is the main thing people just need to respect there are other road users out there.