Greenpeace activist to be tried for piracy in Japan?

**Pixie** · 17th February 2010, 07:02

Originally Posted by Swampdonkey

They will be feeding him whale meat sushi.....hope he enjoys it.
His boat was for the scrapyard in Helensville,it was rooted.All of a sudden its worth millions.

So it was an insurance scam.
Along the lines of: "my car is worth fuck all on the market,but it's insured for heaps.I'll arrange for it to be 'stolen'.'

**The Stranger:Me** · 17th February 2010, 07:19

Originally Posted by Skyryder

It’s a foregone conclusion.

Sea Shepherd’s reasoning for their action on this, is that Key never made a satisfactory response as Prime Minister for the ramming of a NZ registered vessel by the Japanese.

The only foregone conclusion is that skyryder will blame Key for everything.

**rainman** · 17th February 2010, 07:34

Originally Posted by Pascal

Pete is a criminal. He has broken the law. Are you suggesting the NZ government should support criminals in attacking foreign nationals?

Skyryder has addressed this above more eloquently than I can. Sure, it appears he has broken the law and will see some consequences of that - but the law is a secondary consideration in this specific case because a) it's a minor technical breach (he's not putting anyone in danger, other than himself, by boarding their ship), and b) the japs started it by ramming his ship (a far more dangerous breach of the law that has not seen them get any consequences as yet). So yes, he gets my support. But then again, I'm not a mindless greenie-hating bigot like so many here are.

**rainman** · 17th February 2010, 07:36

Originally Posted by jimjim

Helen Clark would have solved this...yea rite

Not sure she would have solved it, but if I had to bet 10 bucks on who would take some action (any action), between Helen and Johnny - no contest.

Even Rodney says he doesn't do anything.

**Dave Lobster** · 17th February 2010, 08:25

Originally Posted by MisterD

No Dave, you may not. Somewhere in Africa with lots of sand would be the go...

We already drop bombs on wankers in Afwica.

More fun to drop bombs on wankers in France.

**Tank** · 17th February 2010, 08:38

Originally Posted by rainman

Pete is a top bloke and a true hero. He's not a direct close friend but I'm proud to count him in my extended social circle, and I'm glad he has the balls to do what he believes in - he's braver than me, and I suspect, most of you lot too. Sure the citizen's arrest is a stunt but it's a high-stakes way of getting an issue he believes in into the international debate. He deserves much more support that this government will give him. Unfortunately Murray "Useless" McCully is FM at the moment, and, as usual, won't do his job.

Braver than me - probably - but also a lot more stupid.

and NO - this government should not be condoning or offering any support. They are committing illeagal acts at sea - fucked if my $ should help them. Again - hope he gets a very long time in a jap cell.

Originally Posted by rainman

Yeah, 'cos you were there, right? At least read his book before you spout crap on here.

yeah - because his own book wont be a one sided affair making him look good now would it.

**Tank** · 17th February 2010, 08:40

Originally Posted by rainman

Not sure she would have solved it, but if I had to bet 10 bucks on who would take some action (any action), between Helen and Johnny - no contest.

Even Rodney says he doesn't do anything.

Look at all the bring Dylan home threads on this site to see the inaction of Helen Clarkes government in looking after a innocent NZ'er abroad before you spout such crap.

**Pascal** · 17th February 2010, 08:42

Originally Posted by rainman

but the law is a secondary consideration in this specific case because a) it's a minor technical breach (he's not putting anyone in danger, other than himself, by boarding their ship), and b) the japs started it by ramming his ship (a far more dangerous breach of the law that has not seen them get any consequences as yet).

So if I get this right we are allowed to break the law if we disagree with it, believe we're not putting anyone in danger and if the other person has done something else wrong?

I could key your bike for being a Greenie? And that would be okay?

**rainman** · 17th February 2010, 08:43

Originally Posted by Tank

yeah - because his own book wont be a one sided affair making him look good now would it.

So, not much different to the one-sided commentary here that assumes because he's doing something green he must be bad?

**Tank** · 17th February 2010, 08:44

Originally Posted by rainman

So, not much different to the one-sided commentary here that assumes because he's doing something green he must be bad?

Dont confuse doing something Green with political agendas.

If NZ woke up to that the green party would be dead in a week.

**rainman** · 17th February 2010, 08:45

Originally Posted by Pascal

I could key your bike for being a Greenie? And that would be okay?

How has Pete damaged the property of the Japanese?

**Tank** · 17th February 2010, 08:46

Originally Posted by rainman

How has Pete damaged the property of the Japanese?

Well - the freely admit to doing millions of dollars of damage over the years. So yeah - fuckem.

**avgas** · 17th February 2010, 08:53

Cry me an ocean full of whales all of you

**Pascal** · 17th February 2010, 08:55

Originally Posted by rainman

How has Pete damaged the property of the Japanese?

It's only minor property damage. A few scratches. You're not harmed. You just have to ride around like a dick with scratches on his tank. It could be an act of protest against law-breaking Greenies?

You're letting your ideology blind you to law-breaking. It would be much better to actually solve this through the right process, get international support and work within the system. This mad vigilantism is not doing the whales any favours, because all it is doing is making the activists look like dicks to everybody but their hollow echo chambers.