License application proof of address

[BMWST?]

Reasonable? Bullshit. How does having a piece of paper with a name and address identify you any more than the photo they already have?

I dont know why you are attacking me.The Drivers photo license IS also a identity card so it is reasonable to try to ascertain you are who you say you are.There was a proposal for identity cards at the time the new photo drivers license were introduced.

[jono035]

I shouldn't have to carry proof of who I am just to appease the police (the only people who would want to know). I don't mind having to carry a drivers license to prove that I am qualified to drive a car. I don't mind having to carry ID to prove that I am old enough to buy alcohol. I don't know of any laws that say I must be identifiable at all other times.

[gw555]

You want to try supplying "the info" when the only form of address is a box number!!!

Because the Post Office don't deliver mail to the area I live in we have a box number which is at a Post Office 35km away.

The AA accepted my AA card as proof last time for license renewal. When I tried to apply for a library card they turned me down - I left it went back 3 weeks later when somebody else was on explained the situation and she lived up the road from me so no problem!!!

[kwaka_crasher]

I dont know why you are attacking me.The Drivers photo license IS also a identity card so it is reasonable to try to ascertain you are who you say you are.There was a proposal for identity cards at the time the new photo drivers license were introduced.

Sorry. I 'attack' all unthinking lemmings who fail to see any implications beyond what is currently being proposed.

The drivers license is NOT an identity card because most people who want to use it as such have no way if verifying it's authenticity. It's become a defacto ID card but that is actually more dangerous than not having one at all as it is so open to abuse. I don't have my address on mine for that very reason.

At the end of the day a driver's license is just that - a drivers's license. Nothing more.

Back to the original subject though - why do they need your address verified?

[Sentox]

I'm confused. If bank statements last for a year, how was your 8 month old one 'expired' by 2 months?

[jono035]

I'm confused. If bank statements last for a year, how was your 8 month old one 'expired' by 2 months?

Just edited the original post, it was a power bill that I took in, not a bank statement. My bad.

[red mermaid]

Because like it or not, a drivers licence is now accepted as a form of identity, and in the real world there is these big bad people who don't aspire to your level of personal responsibility and therefore want to use a drivers licence to steal another persons identity and do naughty things.

So if you show proof of residence it creates another hurdle for them to jump.

So don't blame police, NZTA or other similiar bodies, blame the crooks that use knuckle head civil liberterians and the silly ideas they try to make us choose to protect their rights.

Sorry. I 'attack' all unthinking lemmings who fail to see any implications beyond what is currently being proposed.

The drivers license is NOT an identity card because most people who want to use it as such have no way if verifying it's authenticity. It's become a defacto ID card but that is actually more dangerous than not having one at all as it is so open to abuse. I don't have my address on mine for that very reason.

At the end of the day a driver's license is just that - a drivers's license. Nothing more.

Back to the original subject though - why do they need your address verified?

[kwaka_crasher]

Because like it or not, a drivers licence is now accepted as a form of identity

Not if I don't let it be. "I don't drive" I say, jiggling my vehicle keys in my hand.

...and in the real world there is these big bad people who don't aspire to your level of personal responsibility and therefore want to use a drivers licence to steal another persons identity and do naughty things.

Which is the very reason a drivers license should never be used as ID - most people that accept it as such have no way whatsoever of verifying it's authenticity.

So if you show proof of residence it creates another hurdle for them to jump.

I can whip up a fake bank statement with any damned address I want and print it on my colour laser and they'll be none the wiser. The fact anyone thinks that such a piece of paper is proof of anything is what makes fraud so bloody easy.

So don't blame police, NZTA or other similiar bodies, blame the crooks that use knuckle head civil liberterians and the silly ideas they try to make us choose to protect their rights.

I do blame the NZTA. The measures they take are actually easily circumvented and lull people into a false sense of security.