I personally don't know why bike-shops are open during the week.
If someone is looking at a bike during working hours. They can't afford it anyway.
Would be better if the shops hours were like 3pm to 8pm, 7 days a week.
Come warm yourself by the fire
I personally don't know why bike-shops are open during the week.
If someone is looking at a bike during working hours. They can't afford it anyway.
Would be better if the shops hours were like 3pm to 8pm, 7 days a week.
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Yes it is...if there were more customers utilising that fact that we were open on a Sunday then we still would open.Originally Posted by Big Dave
Highway Biker
can't argue with that mate
[CENTER]Whatchu talkin bout Willis?
Forum whore
You make a valid point, however, one concept you are overlooking is the idea of "skilled" staff.
I am unsure of the NZ minimum wage now....$12? I really don't know for certain.
The idea of having 3 students staff your bike shop may well seem appealing, however, it is far from ideal.
It takes years for a staff member in the motorcycling industry to get the skills required to deal with even the most "average" customer, let alone one who (thinks) he "knows it all".
I assure you, if a group of shops tried the "weekend warrior" approach to motorcycle/accessory sales, the next thread that would be started will be something to the tune of " Why do motorcycle shops have numpties in the shop on the weekend"
followed by,
"When I go to a bike shop, I demand to take an hours time with the service manager/ mechanic/parts person to discuss my 1984 VF750 and it's rattly cam chain's, however, walk out, having only purchased a Two Wheels magazine"
Royal Enfield user
How about a retired person ?
and what about a change of product mix in order to get that money out of the wallet
Stephen
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
bright spark
no im just tarring the bike shops in the wellington area, but i dare say, its pretty much the same old story right throughout the country,
ok im willing to say there are plenty of exceptions to the rule, im just not finding them,
as for the xz400, well, what can i say, i like bikes with a few quirksas far as ive found to date its been a very reliable work horse
black cat
im sure this has already bin said on this thread but i aint gonna read it to find out. how it has managed to go on this long is beyond my ken.
because god created sundays for EVERYONE to go RIDE their bikes. this includes the owners and workers of bike shops.
if you cant sort ya shit for ya sunday ride on the other 6 days of the week then stiff shit i say. if its the case of an 'emergency' situation, my experience is you'll find they'll probably bend over backwards to help a good customer if they can anyway
it's nothing at all like flogging ipods at dick smiths, these guys are all motorcyclists just like us
so feel free to work yourself on a sunday if ya like, we'll all be out riding our bikes like everyone else who has a life
Best Frenemy you could have!
Having read one page, I don't know if this has been mentioned.
Most that are asking for stuff to be open longer are usually working longer themselves. Now, it isn't by any means fair to ask a shop to be open all days hours etc, but it provides some understanding. I hate being a last minute kind of person, and asking favours from shops to try to squeeze me in at short notice etc, but the reality is, a lot of clients suddenly need things at the last minute, which leaves me the last second for myself...
Forum whore
The thing is Steven, and this may sound a little Jaded, but the concept of "getting a retired guy in to work part time" is harder than it sounds.
More than ten years ago my foreman talked about that very thing.
We all thought it was a great idea.
However.
Trust me. When you have spent the majority of your working life in the Motorcycle industry, the last thing you want to do in your "golden years" is GO BACK into the damed thing and take the same shit FOR LESS MONEY!
Really, because that is what it boils down to.
The NZ motorcycle industry is hard yards, and you need a thick skin to survive, just take this site (and more recently this thread) as an example.
We have a poster, publicly ridiculing another member (a mechanic) for his (unfortunate) mistakes when describing some details of a motorcycle model.
The links are posted a few pages back.
Seriously, does that happen in any other industry?
Plumbers? Posties? Ipod salesman? Barman? Guy who sells you your Movie ticket?
No.
But, this industry is, unfortunately cursed with it, and, thanks to the internet, we have it (daily) rubbed in our faces.
OK, so that's "how it is"
Fine.
If the customer has a "right" to such things, then give the poor bastards a break for a fucking day and a half per week to recover and ride their bike, or, perhaps, find some other respite from work (table tennis maybe).
Trust me, if bike shops had "weekend" staff, you would all complain about "shit weekend staff who don't know shit"
I know of one shop in ChCH who DID open Sunday (closed Monday and Tuesday I think), but after a year or so, reverted back to closed Sunday's, from memory, it wasn't worth it, and it didn't feel like they had a weekend.
I can't really remember why, but I do know he now runs "closed sunday, and 3/4 Saturday"
There is a pattern forming here..........
Sales is what dictates open hours.....whore houses are open 24/7, because they have a variety of clientele, as well as a "no refund policy", bike shops, sadly not quite the same.
Trust me, if a bike shop could justify a 7 day week (rostered staff) open time, they would.
Actually 10 years ago Eric Wood Motorcycles did, but they soon dropped it.
The staff hated it, and, by in large, Sunday was a complete waste of time.....Oh god, imagine that, a beautiful Sunday afternoon, and you had to work..... standing around talking to customers just before they say "oh cool, well, have a nice day, I'm off for a ride"
I am certain that anyone who want's a bike shop to be open on a Sunday has never worked in the industry. Or ever will.......
Forum whore
Well said, its not like selling ice creams etc.
Come warm yourself by the fire
True - but also isn't rocket science.
I have found the part time staff at stores like motomail etc - actually relatively useful...........and definitely convenient.
Motorcycling is also an industry where a good chunk of the time someone will walk into a shop with clue, or at least some idea of what he wants. And while they may have an opinion, and no smarts.......it doesn't take much for a moron like myself to do this click one then do this click two.......and 2 weeks later rock on up to someone who has to clue to fit it. Most likely get the whole process organized on a Sunday.
So there has to be a reason why I should go to the local bike shop.
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Forum whore
Ever watched Target... or even Fair Go..???
(Actually Target did do one show on getting a motorbike serviced at different bike shops once. Anybody remember what results they got..??)
Anyways... you think the industry can be riddled with useless mechanics and we should all just be thankful and not complain about poor substandard service...???
Yeah, I bet that's what you would like.
One hell of a ride.
>>No offence Dave. But your wrong.
There are plenty of people out there who want to work sundays. They are called students.
If I were a student and a bike shop needed employees for the weekend - I imagine there would be quite a queue.
1000's of business use (and abuse) this abundant resource, even some bike shops.v<<
Nah - No offense taken. Discussion. Buuuut, I'm not wrong.
Have already stated the case and qualifiers earlier.
No doubt when it becomes financially viable/beneficial to a business/the industry - it will happen, the best indicator to me that is currently isn't 'worth it' - is that it currently isn't happening.
PS. Who supervises the Students and Old Geezers?
Royal Enfield user
Hire me
been in the game for ( reaches for calculator ) 25 or more years and when I retire with money from my pension , I want to keep busy , and love dealing with and providing a service to , my friends eeer customers
sounds a bit corny , but its why I got into this busness in the first place ( the dumb part was I didnt see the writing on the wall )
Stephen
Remember our perceptions are based on the inputs that surround and influenced us, and may very well be different in other countries and places , just because one culture doesn't like sat/ sun , this concept may be only applicable the that culture ,,,
"Look, Madame, where we live, look how we live ... look at the life we have...The Republic has forgotten us."
black cat
q.e.d...............
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