People intimidating motorcyclists

[R-Soul]

Thanks for the help guys; will have a talk with her about this later. Also considering having dual air horns and a 12v compressor fitted to her bike. I had this setup on my 99 SV650S and it sounded like a road train was coming for you!

Just get her some really aggro aftermarket pipes... and rev it often.

[R-Soul]

Not always jealous...I know I sometimes get annoyed when I'm in my car at the lights, and some scooter or 250 skips the queue and goes in front of my car...now that doesn't have anything to do with jealousy...it just comes down to a fact that I'm in a hurry and your bike can't accelerate quick enough to get out of my way.

I never have a problem with a bike doing that as long as they are willing (and their bike is capable) to accelerate quickly from the lights (and are actually looking at the lights and not day dreaming like most people seem to do)

I can agree with that - if you are not capable of or willing to out-accelerate a car, then you have no business pushing in in front of them. You are becoming the bottleneck. And the entire positive public policy idea of having more bikes on public roads is to ease congestion, not increase it. the thing is that even 50cc scooters can givea decent amount of acceleration by car standards - but the rider must WANT to use it.

I always ride so as to leave little to no "traffic footprint" - when I enter a lane properly in front of a car, I make sure to leave it soon, and ease ahead. and when I filter to the front of a queue, I am gone before the cars even start thinking of pulling off. I also think that a lot of car drivers can appreciate a decent bit of accelleration - it livens up their dull morning!

[-df-]

I can agree with that - if you are not capable of or willing to out-accelerate a car, then you have no business pushing in in front of them. You are becoming the bottleneck. And the entire positive public policy idea of having more bikes on public roads is to ease congestion, not increase it. the thing is that even 50cc scooters can givea decent amount of acceleration by car standards - but the rider must WANT to use it.

I always ride so as to leave little to no "traffic footprint" - when I enter a lane properly in front of a car, I make sure to leave it soon, and ease ahead. and when I filter to the front of a queue, I am gone before the cars even start thinking of pulling off. I also think that a lot of car drivers can appreciate a decent bit of accelleration - it livens up their dull morning!

Exactly, when I skip to the front of the queue I'm sitting there ready to hit the gas.

Its probably the 1 thing that annoys me about bikes when I'm in my car...people, if you see a decent performance car at the end of a queue...do not ride to the front of the queue...one day that car will go up the bikes arse...I know its even crossed my mind with a few scooter/250s...and I'm not someone that gets road rage.

[shellfish]

The Pommie bike schools call this 'assertiveness' on the road as the command position. Thats when your bike 'owns' the lane, basically in line withthe car drivers position. They use other positions for intersections the left and right turn positions - taking lane space to prevent the car 'sharing the lane with you' but less dominant than the command position.

[Mikkel]

Hehe you think your educating them. How quaint.
I came to the realisation I am only in control of myself a very long time ago.

Not at all. It's not my job to educate anyone - and until it is, I'm not going to waste my time.
However, if you fall asleep in traffic hopefully someone will wake you up.

And I came to the realisation that I am only partially in control of myself - and that the same is true for everyone else - a long time ago.

[Ronin]

Have you done a search for "Stebel" on here?
Quite a few bikes are fitted with them and the resulting comments are quite entertaining!

+1 for a stebel. 160 Decibels of fuck off goodness

[Big Dave]

The loud horn is OK for noobs on small bikes.

Better to exit the situation on a fast one - than worry about making a racket.

Most modern performance machines you can be 'out of there' quicker than it takes the other driver to react to the horn.

[CookMySock]

She'll come right in time, mate. She's just timid on it, and the world eats timid people because they are weak.

Once she has some experience on it, cunts will discover just who is, and is not, timid and weak.

Steve

[Toaster]

The loud horn is OK for noobs on small bikes.

Better to exit the situation on a fast one - than worry about making a racket.

Most modern performance machines you can be 'out of there' quicker than it takes the other driver to react to the horn.

Agreed. It takes one reaction time to use the horn and another when they react to that..... if at all. Way too much time dicking around.

[BigOne]

Thanks for the help guys; will have a talk with her about this later. Also considering having dual air horns and a 12v compressor fitted to her bike. I had this setup on my 99 SV650S and it sounded like a road train was coming for you!

yeah, about the horn- Peep Peep does not do it. I fitted dual air horns to my bike, and when I hit the button, most driver's reaction is immediate and urgent- Like where the fu#k is the TRAIN coming from??? Get a set from Super Cheap for as little as $45. Or Stebels, but you will have trouble finding room for them on the SV.

[mattian]

if you see a decent performance car at the end of a queue...do not ride to the front of the queue.

You've just described EXACTLY what I love to do. Nothing like a decent drag off at the lights.......... up to the speed limit of course

[Mikkel]

if you see a decent performance car at the end of a queue...do not ride to the front of the queue.

The trick is not to block off the car. When the light goes green, wait for a blink of an eye and it'll be very easy to see which way the fella goes - either he'll nail it 100% to make sure he doesn't look like a complete loser (except he will, whether he wins his little drag race or not) or he'll be cool and you'll just do a normal swift acceleration to just above the speed limit. There's shitloads of high-performance vehicles driving around out there, driven by people who drive with no enthusiasm at all - I always get a bit sad when being held up by something like an RS4 or a 911. If you are going to drive like that, just get a bloody prius or something equally uninspiring.

If you are riding in a way so that you might end up holding up other motorists (i.e. slow acceleration, not exceeding the speed limit at all) - do not filter to the front.

[Skyryder]

Not too sure on this but it sounds like she may be too cautious resulting in cage drivers becoming frustrated due to her lack of confidence. The only thing I can suggest is to take her somewhere where she can get to know the bikes capabiles i.e. Practice some hard braking, some short hard acelerating, etc. She needs to get confident out of traffic tghen once she knows her resp[onses and the bikes responses she will have more confidence in traffic.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

The loud horn is OK for noobs on small bikes.

Better to exit the situation on a fast one - than worry about making a racket.

Most modern performance machines you can be 'out of there' quicker than it takes the other driver to react to the horn.

Loud horn is OK for all bikers not just noobs. While the throttle is a life saver the horn can be too. Not many riders can use the horn throttle or brake out of trouble if need be, all at the same time. In short you shouldn't even have to think where the horn button is and the best peice of advice I can give a noob is to know where the button is with out having to think about it.

Skyryder

[Big Dave]

Loud horn is OK for all bikers not just noobs. While the throttle is a life saver the horn can be too. Not many riders can use the horn throttle or brake out of trouble if need be, all at the same time. In short you shouldn't even have to think where the horn button is and the best peice of advice I can give a noob is to know where the button is with out having to think about it.

Skyryder

Good to know where it is true - I think it's pretty much a waste of time unless incorporated into an evasive maneuver.