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    How to defend an 'alleged' drunk driver

    Simple put the problem onto the Govt. Lets not worry about personal responsibility or parental guidance.....

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...Blenheim-crash

    Mr STUBBS stated

    Mr Stubbs said he was "horrified" the Government had not raised the alcohol purchase age from 18 to 20 and it was worrying how easily teenagers and young adults could access alcohol.

    "They've put a loaded gun in kids' hands."



    O did I mention Mr STUBBS is an associate at Lundons Law...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustic101 View Post
    Simple put the problem onto the Govt. Lets not worry about personal responsibility or parental guidance.....

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...Blenheim-crash

    Mr STUBBS stated

    Mr Stubbs said he was "horrified" the Government had not raised the alcohol purchase age from 18 to 20 and it was worrying how easily teenagers and young adults could access alcohol.

    "They've put a loaded gun in kids' hands."



    O did I mention Mr STUBBS is an associate at Lundons Law...
    That would make sense. The gummint also held a gun to his daughters head and forced her to drive. They then, and this is the clever part 'cos they had to fit all 120 MP's in her car, convinced her to do a runner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustic101 View Post
    How to defend an 'alleged' Drunk Driver
    I'd be very surprised if she avoided conviction altogether. But the law is surprisingly accomodating of people who kill/maim (even with intent) so don't expect much.

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    I read this in the paper today, and thought ummmm, doesn't it says she's 20 and therefore it doesn't matter if the drinking age is 18 or 20 she's can still buy booze in order to drive drunk.

    Can't see what relevance that comment has to her doing a runner and killing someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by breakaway View Post
    I'd be very surprised if she avoided conviction altogether. But the law is surprisingly accomodating of people who kill/maim (even with intent) so don't expect much.
    I'd be pissed off if she got diversion. Pissed off, but not exactly surprised...

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    What tickled me was that:

    "She accepts she's made a terrible decision."

    "Our family is massively impacted ... This is a nightmare and I don't know how it will end."

    Well Mr STUBBS who gives a fat rats arse how she or your family feel!!! What about the victim and her family, how the Fark does STUBBS think they feel and the trauma they are dealing with and will continue with every day for the rest of their lives...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I'd be pissed off if she got diversion. Pissed off, but not exactly surprised...
    You can't get diversion for Driving with Excess Breath Alcohol Concentration, but granted, the beak will give her a slap on the wrist with a wet bus ticket. I predict a disqualification of 12 to 18 months with fine of $1000, sorry what did you say? What about gaol?, sorry cough cough splutter!! and the now standard "there has to be a deterrent factor in the sentencing/an example must be made /these actions are at the upper level of offending" state of the nation speech by the beak knowing the camera's will be on him or even her. There'll be the usual outcry blah blah blah and I see the police are getting the 'blame' and are reviewing checkpoint procedures, oh well more training and less time on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I'd be pissed off if she got diversion. Pissed off, but not exactly surprised...
    I would be bloody furious, i got a mate who smashed a window while extremely pissed, his fault yes but got charged with buglary as he took some of the material out of the shop window, no diversion even though he has a spotless record and has done all the things asked of him, paid for the window next working day, gone to alcohol counciling sessions etc.

    If this lady didnt get some jail then there is some serious problems with our 'justice' system, not that we arnt all aware of them already.

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    Hmmm, watch this space I guess......and watch me cynicism develop further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pritch View Post
    I'd be pissed off if she got diversion. Pissed off, but not exactly surprised...
    You and me both pritch, it's amazing how it's all about the perpetrators family and "their" trauma, never mind the victim and her family!

    Stubbs broke the law and should be punished accordingly after that we might be able to work on the forgiveness bit.

    A pound to a knob of goat shit says she will get off lightly, thanks to daddy and his connections, should be charged with manslaughter at the very least! IMHO.

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    Her mother is a nurse and her father is a lawyer - two professions that get tied up with drunk drivers all the time are witness to both the physical trauma and the psychological scars it can leave on both sides of the situation. You'd think they would have taught her better than that!
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    Perhaps she thought it was for the greater good?
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    Quote Originally Posted by R6_kid View Post
    her father is a lawyer - You'd think they would have taught her better than that!
    Do what now?

    I would have expected better from the mother, but I'm not surprised that the Dad is trying to deflect blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    Stubbs broke the law and should be punished accordingly after that we might be able to work on the forgiveness bit.
    Too true. I'm all for people making mistakes as a means of learning, and not being crucified for them - but some mistakes are big enough that the slapping should happen before the forgiving.

    Quote Originally Posted by oldrider View Post
    A pound to a knob of goat shit says she will get off lightly, thanks to daddy and his connections, should be charged with manslaughter at the very least! IMHO.
    Sadly, also too true.
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    I heard him on national radio this morning, in addition to "blaming" the lowering of the alcohol age and alco-pops, he claimed his daughter had a "brain explosion" when pulled over by the police at the checkpoint...

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