Honda CBR1000R5 - I got a lemon...

**ams67** · 14th May 2005, 19:25

Well, for the side stand I have witnesses. It was loose. That was the cause.
Regardingr the clutch I have done a good 70% of the total usage by simply cruising (more than 4000Km done during my trip in South Island). Something was wrong with it. The clutch failed while I was cruising.
They change the shim ofter just few days of the purchase.
30% of the total time I had the bike has been spent to the Honda workshop trying to fix it.
Simply, I do not expect all these troubles and issues from a brand new bike.
As I said before, I am not pissed off because the bike as a 'lemon' can happen. I am pissed off because the way I was treated by Honda.

**crazylittleshit** · 14th May 2005, 19:42

That sucks pretty bad.

**Roadrash** · 14th May 2005, 19:46

Maybe we can help, there are i believe hundreds of bikers on the KB website
maybe put together something stating our numbers and that we are concerned with the way Honda have handled the situation. one biker they can fobb off but when you've got hundreds thats somthing they can't ignore they would want to be seen to be doing the right thing even if it is for the wrong reasons. just a thought

**stevedee** · 14th May 2005, 20:09

Ain't buying a Honda ever till this is resolved, and I will send emails if you decide, bought my bike from a Honda \Kawasaki\Yamaha dealership in Welly, if they treated you like that I would go down there and ask some questions. I have a 24 month warranty and I sweated blood to buy the bike I have . I don't ever want to hear this hapenning to a "customer" who had fronted with a sizeable amount of money be it HP or Cash (cause they make more on the HP). It is not on man. How many customers will they loose just with this escapade? Of to Suzuki next are we?

**thehollowmen** · 14th May 2005, 20:11

Sorry to hear about your bike, and I hope you can get it sorted.

I'd definitally be asking for a refund by now. Doesn't CGA give the consumer the right to chose between repair replacement or a refund? ( Here )

Apparently new Harley Davidsons now have great service... A friend has purchased one, and was given a card to call if it broke down in the next 3 (or was it 5) years and they'd come out to him with a replacement to swap until his was fixed.

Yeah, I wish it was all as good for new bikes but... *Shrugs* go give them hell.

I was considering buying a honda but if they don't sort this out for you, I'm going to another brand.

**Brian d marge** · 14th May 2005, 22:57

If the bike hadnt been filled with oil from the pdi then the chances of the oil reaching the middle plates are reduced. other than that the cluch used in a normal fashion , actually doesnt need oil ..its just there to remove heat from repeated/ long engagements such as a learner easing the clutch nervously...or sitting in traffic or lofting the front past a police station

but that then will blue the plain plates.

Synthetic oil, if it aint for bikes ie cheap stuff ,it may have friction modifyers in it and allow the clutch to slip ....that will show up in an oil analysis

The ticking noise has got me .....at 100 deg c ie operating temp ....a bucket sticking slightly when warm ...??

Oh well just a few thoughts
Stephen

**Brett** · 14th May 2005, 22:59

Man, I was hoping to get a cbr600rr as my next bike...wont be touching one anymore. I will also not be dealing with cyclespot ever. I will also be telling ALL of my mates about this and about this stupid Honda.
I was very very ken on them before, and now I am not so sure....shows what bad publicity can do...
I too will be nmore than happy to ring Cyclespot and winge like a little biarch. just say the word.

**anmolt** · 15th May 2005, 01:55

i must have missed the name in all those pages but whose the dealer newas........i am so glad i didnt go ahead and buy the honda.........i really didnt like the overpriced honda newas and the dealer who was acting all smart and hoping hed get a better price than i was offering him......i think hes had it for a while and im not sure hes gonna get rid of it.....hows the issue turning out or do we wait till 17th may??????????
Consider this very very carefully..........New Zealand is a smallish market for bikes.......i think a lot of people will agree.........selling bikes isnt a piece of cake as people arent dumb here........and so i say that a single customer can cause big trouble for an established company if he/she is in the right....so if they continue hassling yoou i suggest you make it public and see what happens....hondas are the best selling bikes in the world but their competitors are close on their heels and i dont think they want the others to catch up........wot say?????????

**Zapf** · 15th May 2005, 01:57

Originally Posted by Roadrash

Maybe we can help, there are i believe hundreds of bikers on the KB website
maybe put together something stating our numbers and that we are concerned with the way Honda have handled the situation. one biker they can fobb off but when you've got hundreds thats somthing they can't ignore they would want to be seen to be doing the right thing even if it is for the wrong reasons. just a thought

ams67,
Here is an idea... how about you arrange a Sat and time and then a bunch of us KB guys in Auckland will turn up at Cyclespot with you to listen to your rant to them in person... and see what they say then

**StoneChucker** · 15th May 2005, 08:09

Originally Posted by Zapf

ams67,
Here is an idea... how about you arrange a Sat and time and then a bunch of us KB guys in Auckland will turn up at Cyclespot with you to listen to your rant to them in person... and see what they say then

Confronting them in that way will only get their backs up, and less likely to go the extra bit to help the guy out. Wait until all avenues have been exhausted and THEN go legal or public. Public is the cheaper option, with just about as much probability of a good outcome.

There are ALOT of us here, and we know alot of people not on here who ride bikes. If the shop is in the wrong, they are playing a very dangerous game... Bikeshop business is cut throat, they probably can't afford the very bad reputation.

**ams67** · 15th May 2005, 08:44

I gave them (formally) 5 working days to put the bike right. (from sollicitor advice).
I am sure that they will 'fix' it in time (6 weeks later). Also I am also sure the bike will fail again. I do not know if I have to wait until the inevitable next bike failure and request legally a replacement (now a sollicitor is involved) or just trade the Honda in straight away and get something more reliable.
I just want this 'sad' story to end ASAP so I can continue to enjoy my ridings.
The main reason I wanted to share my story with you is that I might avoid to someone to go through my same shit as both dealer and distributor are really crap...

**mikey** · 15th May 2005, 09:40

you can take my mum in with you, she'll get you a new bike in less than half an hour.

**ams67** · 15th May 2005, 10:07

ROTFL!!! I will seriously consider it...

**inlinefour** · 15th May 2005, 10:50

and put it back on the Honda dealer. Must say its enough to put me off getting a 2005 CBR600RR, which up until now was the far preferred bike to purchase. I think we need to get the Honda dealer involved aware of this thread so they can explain why this occured. Not the sort of thing I would expect from a new vehicle at all and if this is what we can expect from Honda in NZ, then perhaps they have no place selling here. Hmmm, kind of makes me think about test piloting the Kawasaki 636...

**WINJA** · 15th May 2005, 10:57

Originally Posted by ams67

I gave them (formally) 5 working days to put the bike right. (from sollicitor advice).
I am sure that they will 'fix' it in time (6 weeks later). Also I am also sure the bike will fail again. I do not know if I have to wait until the inevitable next bike failure and request legally a replacement (now a sollicitor is involved) or just trade the Honda in straight away and get something more reliable.
I just want this 'sad' story to end ASAP so I can continue to enjoy my ridings.
The main reason I wanted to share my story with you is that I might avoid to someone to go through my same shit as both dealer and distributor are really crap...

YOU SHOULD HAVE CONFIDENCE IN A NEW BIKE AND NO MATTER WHAT THEY DO TO YOUR BIKE NOW YOULL PROBABLY ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT A BREAKDOWN ON LONG TRIPS IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE , THATS ONE THING THAT PISSED ME OFF ABOUT MY NEW BLADE THAT KEPT BREAKING DOWN , I COULDNT CONCENTRATE ON RIDING I WAS ALWAYS WORRYING ABOUT THE BIKE WHICH IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION .