Forgot to renew rego exemption, $50!

[jaykay]

Tried to renew rego exemption for a GSX400 that has been off the road for a few years - the online system said I couldn't renew until I paid $50.......
So I rang this morning to be told "as you didn't renew your exemption in time there is a $50 "fine", and it can't be renewed until you've paid"
Yeh right - it's this sort of thing that really annoys me.

What to do? Simple really, register the bike to someone else (my Ltd company in this case), and immediately fill in the forms for exemption from rego - total cost $9.20.

Now LTNZ have to chase me for the $50 - the question is will they take me to court (remember I've had no notification about a $50 fine yet)? or will they just put it in the too hard basket?

I'll wait and see, probably for a year or two!

[p.dath]

I'm guessing to register it in a new name you might have to do a change of ownership form or something - and I bet you wouldn't be able to lodge the form till you pay the bill.

Just my guess.

[Aaron_newrider]

They don't bother taking you to court mate - they just pass it on the the debt collectors and then it goes to bay corp.

Pay the $50, it's not like it's going to empty the wallet.

[Madness]

What a waste of $9.20

[Mully]

It's probably 3 months rego rather than a "fine" as such.

Although we got a letter when the on-hold for Miss Mully's rego was about to expire......

[davereid]

Good on ya mate.

Having to "put rego on hold" etc is just crap. If you arent using the bike, why should you you have to jump through a series of hoops just so you don't have to pay for a service you are not using ?

You may end up having to pay for it, just drag it out as long as you can. Make sure they end up sending you endless letters etc first.

As an aside, I don't put vehicles on hold any more, I put them on farm rego instead. It helps that I live on a smallholding with a few animals. $80 a year, and you can still use the vehicle as long as you are within a few km of the farm and on farm business.

The best bit is, you can just change it back whenever you want without having to pay back $$ if you havent been off for 3 months.

[CookMySock]

I don't put vehicles on hold any more, I put them on farm rego instead. It helps that I live on a smallholding with a few animals. $80 a year, and you can still use the vehicle as long as you are within a few km of the farm and on farm business.

Do you have to manage some farm property for this to be legal?

Steve

[p.dath]

Good on ya mate.

Having to "put rego on hold" etc is just crap. If you arent using the bike, why should you you have to jump through a series of hoops just so you don't have to pay for a service you are not using ?
...

Consider the criminals amongst us and how they could abuse this for the cover of anonymity when committing a crime if registration was not required.

Also consider how this might affect insurance if there was no way of tracing the other vehicle - and you can bet that if putting a rego on hold was optional that some people would stop paying, but keep on using the vehicle.

It's important that we keep a track of NZ's fleet.

[jaykay]

Apart from the fact that rego itself is an anachronism, there is no real reason why an exemption should have to be renewed every year.

It would be far better to raise money for ACC, (which is what most of the rego is for) by adding it on to fuel costs. The present system has no benefits for safe driving, and subsidises vehicles that do a lot of k's and use lots of fuel.

Anyway, I await any demands for payment of the $50 with interest - if "they" are as successful at extracting the money from me as the police/courts are with speeding fines etc it could take a few years and cost more than $50 to collect.

[Taz]

Good on ya mate.

Having to "put rego on hold" etc is just crap. If you arent using the bike, why should you you have to jump through a series of hoops just so you don't have to pay for a service you are not using ?

.

What hoops? I just filled in a form and handed it over. Didn't cost anything. How simple is that?

[Subike]

You got out of that one crink a cheap as,
I recently had to pay $171 to keep the reg alive on a truck I have because I missed putting it on hold.
If I had left it another 3 mths, it would have gone off the register.
As I have three vechicles on hold, I have reminders in place, but missed one.
I wish it was only $50 like your
Drink a cup of concrete

[cheesemethod]

On a completely unrelated topic - what colour is your GSX400X?

[jaykay]

Orange and blue.

Not heard anything about the $50, and I doubt it will be chased. The annoying part was the refusal to put the bike on hold again without paying the money rather than the money itself.

As there is a system to get round the "fine" I used it, and if the $50 is chased I will ensure it will cost far more than that to collect.

[p.dath]

Orange and blue.

Not heard anything about the $50, and I doubt it will be chased. The annoying part was the refusal to put the bike on hold again without paying the money rather than the money itself.

As there is a system to get round the "fine" I used it, and if the $50 is chased I will ensure it will cost far more than that to collect.

You do realise being a Government agency that if it costs "far more to collect" that it is actually you indirectly that pays the difference in tax anyway ...

Either way, the Government wins.

[jono035]

You do realise being a Government agency that if it costs "far more to collect" that it is actually you indirectly that pays the difference in tax anyway ...

Either way, the Government wins.

Yep, the persons time you are wasting is paid for out of your own pocket. It's a tragedy of the commons problem really.

ACC costs on fuel would seem to be a good answer to me... Makes it scale better with number of kms driven too. There are arguments to be made either way, but when looking at it purely from a law-of-averages point of view it would seem logical.

I also like the 'rego-on-hold' system all things considered, if you keep on top of it then it doesn't cost anything to have a vehicle off the road while still allowing it to be easily put back on the road. The alternatives wouldn't seem to be all that great...