Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 23

Thread: 250 two-strokes now legal to race 250 four-strokes

  1. #1
    Join Date
    22nd July 2008 - 18:28
    Bike
    Small Mercies
    Location
    Lagunaville
    Posts
    380

    250 two-strokes now legal to race 250 four-strokes

    At least that's now the rule in Australia, and so it should be. And about bloody time...Why should the mighty 250 two stroke class be penalised because they make too much power against the heavy and comparitively ( Politically Correct and gutless ) 250 Fstrokes ? This should be happening here too.....

    twostrokemotocross.com

  2. #2
    Join Date
    21st May 2007 - 18:03
    Bike
    kx250f
    Location
    shore
    Posts
    1,616
    Quote Originally Posted by Armitage Shanks View Post
    At least that's now the rule in Australia, and so it should be. And about bloody time...Why should the mighty 250 two stroke class be penalised because they make too much power against the heavy and comparitively ( Politically Correct and gutless ) 250 Fstrokes ? This should be happening here too.....

    twostrokemotocross.com
    If the 2strokes win you can have my bike, if the 4strokes win you give me yours????
    Broken bikes wanted, pm details

  3. #3
    Join Date
    9th January 2006 - 12:26
    Bike
    KX450 Motard/Flat Track KTM150SX H2R
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    4,445
    man those aussies are slow, they have been racing like that in nz for 3 years,

    and good to see DK signed up to race a 250 2t over there as well,

    infact a good amount of kiwi's signed up to race, 5 under 19's and a couple in MX2

  4. #4
    Join Date
    25th April 2009 - 17:38
    Bike
    RC36, RC31, KR-E, CR125
    Location
    Manawatu
    Posts
    7,364
    hmmm, seems like somewhere in the last decade a class has been lost dunnit, theres now no bikes with comparable power to the 125cc two strokes, perhaps this leaves the door open for another class, 150cc 4T or 150cc 2T?

  5. #5
    Join Date
    9th January 2006 - 12:26
    Bike
    KX450 Motard/Flat Track KTM150SX H2R
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    4,445
    there is still a 125 class in NZ,

    and there is one in the US amatuer ranks as well,

    before everyone gets on the who killed the 2 t band wagon, the truth is more people buy 4 strokes, thats why all but one japanese manufacturer has stopped productions of them

  6. #6
    Join Date
    25th April 2009 - 17:38
    Bike
    RC36, RC31, KR-E, CR125
    Location
    Manawatu
    Posts
    7,364
    Quote Originally Posted by scott411 View Post
    there is still a 125 class in NZ,

    and there is one in the US amatuer ranks as well,

    before everyone gets on the who killed the 2 t band wagon, the truth is more people buy 4 strokes, thats why all but one japanese manufacturer has stopped productions of them
    so are there 125, 250, and 450 classes in NZ? forgive my ignorance I've been away from the racing scene a while. And 2T aint dead, its just getting selective with the owners

  7. #7
    Join Date
    17th July 2006 - 13:53
    Bike
    2006 CR250R
    Location
    Gisborne
    Posts
    2,090
    Quote Originally Posted by scott411 View Post
    there is still a 125 class in NZ,

    and there is one in the US amatuer ranks as well,

    before everyone gets on the who killed the 2 t band wagon, the truth is more people buy 4 strokes, thats why all but one japanese manufacturer has stopped productions of them
    some of the reasons behind this are:
    the reputation the likes of the XR's built for 4 stroke reliability (to the uninformed buyers)
    4 strokes are cool at the moment, just like 15 years ago nobody would buy a 4 stroke because they were un-cool
    4 strokes are currently regarded as most as 'the direction things are headed'


    and a thing you will see across the country is that a lot of the better (but not pro) riders ride 2 strokes compared to those lower in the ranks

  8. #8
    Join Date
    9th January 2006 - 12:26
    Bike
    KX450 Motard/Flat Track KTM150SX H2R
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    4,445
    yes there are 3 national classes in NZ, 125's, MX2 (250's) and MX1 (over 251cc)

  9. #9
    Join Date
    17th November 2009 - 14:46
    Bike
    KTM 250 EXC
    Location
    Upper Hood
    Posts
    600
    Hang on, I get from the thread that you can now race a 250 2t in the class with 250 4t's, not a seperate class as it is here now. If so it should make for interesting racing.
    HOW DARE YOU SAY I HAVE A BIG PIPE
    Sometimes I ride Slow, sometimes I Ride Quick, But When its Time To Get Busy Out The Hat Comes The Trick.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    26th January 2010 - 18:24
    Bike
    1999 KDX220
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    92
    Quote Originally Posted by Pornstar View Post
    Hang on, I get from the thread that you can now race a 250 2t in the class with 250 4t's, not a seperate class as it is here now. If so it should make for interesting racing.
    As Scott said, it's been like this for three years now. I ride my 250 2 stroke in the MX2 class and have done for literally years.


    There are only a few of us racing at a higher level now, I was one of three 250 2 strokes at this years Auckland and Valley Champs racing in the MX2 class

  11. #11
    Join Date
    17th November 2009 - 14:46
    Bike
    KTM 250 EXC
    Location
    Upper Hood
    Posts
    600
    I dont follow the MX very closley, so obviously they arent at a huge advantage, i.e, they dont dominate the front of the pack.
    HOW DARE YOU SAY I HAVE A BIG PIPE
    Sometimes I ride Slow, sometimes I Ride Quick, But When its Time To Get Busy Out The Hat Comes The Trick.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    24th May 2008 - 21:24
    Bike
    some honda bits in a kx chassis
    Location
    Waiuku City
    Posts
    1,326
    There was an article in ADB magazine a few months back, and they compared a 250f with a 144 and a 250 2T. All the bikes had similar lap times with a range of riders, the 250 2T made heaps more power and torque ( they dynoed the bikes ) but wasn't quicker than any of the other 2 bikes.
    we may just go where no ones been

  13. #13
    Join Date
    26th March 2009 - 21:20
    Bike
    01cr250..yamaha yz250 03 (stolen)
    Location
    riverhead
    Posts
    61
    in the states they have 2 stroke nats pro and am class.. carmichael won last year on rm250

  14. #14
    Join Date
    17th July 2006 - 13:53
    Bike
    2006 CR250R
    Location
    Gisborne
    Posts
    2,090
    Quote Originally Posted by noobi View Post
    There was an article in ADB magazine a few months back, and they compared a 250f with a 144 and a 250 2T. All the bikes had similar lap times with a range of riders, the 250 2T made heaps more power and torque ( they dynoed the bikes ) but wasn't quicker than any of the other 2 bikes.
    this depends on the track. down here we race classes based on ability / speed, you can ride whatever you like- some of the guys ride 250f's in the a grade and do ok on tighter tracks, but as soon as you get to a faster more high speed track they get destroyed. most likely due to their lack of acceleration in 4th and 5th gears, at the end of the day the 250 2t is a faster bike... but its not often relevant on a mx track, and often the more power does more harm than good as it makes the rider tired faster and more likely to feed it just that little bit too much in a corner, tight corners on 125s and 250f's is easy compared to a more powerful bike, all you have to do is lean it over and feed it to it!

  15. #15
    Join Date
    22nd July 2008 - 18:28
    Bike
    Small Mercies
    Location
    Lagunaville
    Posts
    380
    Quote Originally Posted by B0000M View Post
    this depends on the track. down here we race classes based on ability / speed, you can ride whatever you like- some of the guys ride 250f's in the a grade and do ok on tighter tracks, but as soon as you get to a faster more high speed track they get destroyed. most likely due to their lack of acceleration in 4th and 5th gears, at the end of the day the 250 2t is a faster bike... but its not often relevant on a mx track, and often the more power does more harm than good as it makes the rider tired faster and more likely to feed it just that little bit too much in a corner, tight corners on 125s and 250f's is easy compared to a more powerful bike, all you have to do is lean it over and feed it to it!
    Point taken but, do the spectators wanna watch the easier bikes to ride or, the faster bikes ie the 250 T's...and where does that leave the 450's now vs the 250 t's ? And, are you allowed to race a 500 with the 450's here? I've been out of the loop as well for a while .......

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •