Waihopai terrorists get off

[98tls]

Oi the lot of you!
Step back a bit an look at the broader perspective.
Found not guilty - they go home, we look bad.
Found guilty - given full punishment of law, which is a small fine and some PD.......we look bad
Our courts suck, we have always looked bad.
I mean in jail right now is a chinese guy that put his misses in the boot, dropped the daughter in aus and then moved to US........he was caught, brought back here and now had 3 meals and sky tv......
either way
We look bad

Either way We pay,the French had it sussed way back no ifs or buts walk the stairs,on ya knees and its over with no fuss,imagine the interweb space that would be saved.

[JimO]

There's worse places than here.


skyryder

true comrade true

[peasea]

Either way We pay,the French had it sussed way back no ifs or buts walk the stairs,on ya knees and its over with no fuss,imagine the interweb space that would be saved.

July 14, a day to be celebrated.

Mind you, given the propensity for kiwis to be somewhat lethargic I doubt anyone will lose their head over it.

[Robert Taylor]

The greater good can't be used in this case either - they only got off coz they had a jury full of brain amputees.

Aka communist greenies

[Robert Taylor]

Agree, "America=Bad" is an oversimplification, but so is "America=Good". Maybe if they behaved themselves, it would be different, eh? The fuckers are always off picking fights they should just stay out of (and conveniently staying blind to a few that, by their standards, they should get involved in). They've barely not been fighting a war somewhere since the end of WWII.

And I still don't see why my taxes (and yours) should prop up their dodgy spying in support of their dodgy wars.

Lets not forget that they saved us from certain aninihilation by the Japanese. Okay they are not perfect but Id rather side with them than get all cuddly with muslim sand farmers etc

[Robert Taylor]

True. However what was done, is what should have been done by the U.N as soon as it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was back in the form of Saddam Hussein. Same shit, different man. Do'nt forget about all that genocide.

It should have been led by the U.N, removed the animal, then reconstruction. Unfortunately all the U.N are capable of doing is writing a stern letter, or disapproving an action at a meeting. The yanks just went the wrong way about it.

With people like Helen Clark at the UN there is no hope

[Robert Taylor]

This just proves to me how bad the system realy is...... I am still stunned.
It dosnt matter what the place was but the fact they were cought and they admitted to doing the crime, Cost the tax payer has to pay $$$$$$$$ to replace dome, and the system lets them off.
This is just crazy.
Hang on our taxes are going up.... Petrol is going up.... Regos are going up......
Why dosnt my pay lol.

Well I hope it goes to appeal and those hippy tossers get done like a dogs dinner. Treason worthy of a death penalty, if only we still had such. Another day to live for to see those bastards go down.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Aka communist greenies

ask yourself this question:

"Would I like to be tried by a jury of people who couldnt get of jury service?"

Oh, and as for these hippies, I can see them getting off the burglary, but not the wilful damage, but whatever. Why was that thing made of PVC in the first place, and why werent appropriate measures taken to safeguard it if they didnt want retards to come along and fuck it up?

Stupid gummint doing it on the cheap again, thats the actual issue....

[Skyryder]

Well I hope it goes to appeal and those hippy tossers get done like a dogs dinner. Treason worthy of a death penalty, if only we still had such. Another day to live for to see those bastards go down.

I think treason requires a declaration of war. The realitiy is that this is just piddling stuff. i doubt very much whether they actually saved any lives as claimed. As for the terrorist name I think this does an injustice to those that have been killed and maimed byr real terrorists.

I think the real indignation of many here is not the fact that they got off per se but that those with a different political persuasion were found not guilty...............and that has pissed off some on here more than common sense should allow.


Skyryder

[paturoa]

I think you've all taken this entirely out of context.

This has nothing to do with the justification arguement or whatever.

It is no more than a example of the average intelligence of people on Juries. I've only been on one jury, and my conclusion is that average intelligence is just that. A whole lot of people who have (significantly) below average intelligence are on juries.

So a couple of retards are now being talked up as a great victory for freedom.

EXCUSE ME.

These same people that are talking it up are aso on juries ... QED

[puddytat]

You fellas need to up your meds......

[Robert Taylor]

I think treason requires a declaration of war. The realitiy is that this is just piddling stuff. i doubt very much whether they actually saved any lives as claimed. As for the terrorist name I think this does an injustice to those that have been killed and maimed byr real terrorists.

I think the real indignation of many here is not the fact that they got off per se but that those with a different political persuasion were found not guilty...............and that has pissed off some on here more than common sense should allow.


Skyryder

Inarguably they are vandals and should be made to pay for the damage in full. If they cant pay kill them.

Simple.

[Ixion]

I think treason requires a declaration of war. The realitiy is that this is just piddling stuff. i doubt very much whether they actually saved any lives as claimed. As for the terrorist name I think this does an injustice to those that have been killed and maimed byr real terrorists.

I think the real indignation of many here is not the fact that they got off per se but that those with a different political persuasion were found not guilty...............and that has pissed off some on here more than common sense should allow.


Skyryder

Not quite

Every one owing allegiance to Her Majesty the Queen in right of New Zealand commits treason who, within or outside New Zealand,—
(a) Kills or wounds or does grievous bodily harm to Her Majesty the Queen, or imprisons or restrains her; or
(b) Levies war against New Zealand; or
(c) Assists an enemy at war with New Zealand, or any armed forces against which New Zealand forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between New Zealand and any other country; or
(d) Incites or assists any person with force to invade New Zealand; or
(e) Uses force for the purpose of overthrowing the Government of New Zealand; or
(f) Conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in this section.

We also have some possible treason charges under the common law,and remnants of the Statute of Treasons 1359 (I think)

However waihopai is certainly not treason

[rainman]

I think the real indignation of many here is not the fact that they got off per se but that those with a different political persuasion were found not guilty...............and that has pissed off some on here more than common sense should allow.

Got it in one.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It is no more than a example of the average intelligence of people on Juries. I've only been on one jury, and my conclusion is that average intelligence is just that. A whole lot of people who have (significantly) below average intelligence are on juries.

thats my point, innit. they can't get out of it, so in my view by definition, they should be disqualfied from making the decision.

Remember, a jury found Davd B--n not guilty. QED