Big wussy bleat about dirt bike prices

[slowpoke]

Haha, so it's not just me then?! Faaark, was lookin' for months trying to find something to bash up a few paddocks and hopefully sharpen/find some skills but got thoroughly depressed at what was available and what it was going for. It amazes me what people will pay for a 20year old XR.

They'd be a good investment, buy up every XR you can get your mits on, wait for the price to stabilise at an even more stratospheric level and flog 'em off.

I've just picked something up (prolly spend more time fixin' the bloody thing than riding it), but that $2k-ish bracket is a frikkin' nightmare.

[monchopper]

The price of a bike that is road reg'd (or at least can be road reg'd) is so much higher than a bike that hasn't been road reg'd.
It's nearly impossible to road reg a bike in NZ. It's a disgrace, a bike is either road worthy or it's not and you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get a road worthy bike on the road.

If they made is easy to put a bike on the road the price of these bikes would decrease (supply and demand). Buyers would then get better bikes for their buck and you would see a general increase in the quality of bike on the road.

Here in the UK it's a piece of cake. I just bought a mint Husky 2004 TE450 with 40 hours on the clock for NZ$2600, it cost me NZ$350 to get it on the road (includes 1 years tax and 1 years insurance). Try doing something like that in NZ for under $3K

If fact it's a bit of a joke in the UK, you can get something called a daytime MOT (WOF) and all you need is a rare reflector. So you'll see KX500's etc with no lights etc riding legally on the road.

[Padmei]

[QUOTE=monchopper;1129707407]IIn 1987 I bought a 1981 DT175 for $600, QUOTE]

About that time I sold a DT 175 for $350 just to get rid of it. Hell if I'd kept it I'd be able to trade it in on a new Husaberg!!

Whats the UK equivalent of Trademe?

Just had a look on the Aussie ebay after reading WW's thread & like the US ebay am amazed how few bikes are listed on there for the size of the population. We must be the biggest 2nd hand online traders in the world.

The Aussie prices didn't seem too disimilar to prices over here either.

[monchopper]

[QUOTE=Padmei;1129708523]

IIn 1987 I bought a 1981 DT175 for $600, QUOTE]

About that time I sold a DT 175 for $350 just to get rid of it. Hell if I'd kept it I'd be able to trade it in on a new Husaberg!!

Whats the UK equivalent of Trademe?

Just had a look on the Aussie ebay after reading WW's thread & like the US ebay am amazed how few bikes are listed on there for the size of the population. We must be the biggest 2nd hand online traders in the world.

The Aussie prices didn't seem too disimilar to prices over here either.

In the UK ebay has 1000's of bikes and parts, I do all my shopping on ebay. It's be down to population density. In the Uk with 60 million people in an area the size of the South Island, it's not that hard to go and see a bike or have it couriered for not too much money.
Some bikes here have amazing prices. Old DTs, XTs and RDs (Not sure what the love affair with Yammies is all about!!).
Check this old DT400 out $10,000 DT400 on EBAY

[Padmei]

Velly intelesting.
Some beaut bikes there. Again not as many xr250s as NZ tho.
Cheers Mono

[cooneyr]

The price of a bike that is road reg'd (or at least can be road reg'd) is so much higher than a bike that hasn't been road reg'd.
It's nearly impossible to road reg a bike in NZ. It's a disgrace, a bike is either road worthy or it's not and you shouldn't have to jump through hoops to get a road worthy bike on the road.

If they made is easy to put a bike on the road the price of these bikes would decrease (supply and demand). Buyers would then get better bikes for their buck and you would see a general increase in the quality of bike on the road.

Here in the UK it's a piece of cake. I just bought a mint Husky 2004 TE450 with 40 hours on the clock for NZ$2600, it cost me NZ$350 to get it on the road (includes 1 years tax and 1 years insurance). Try doing something like that in NZ for under $3K

If fact it's a bit of a joke in the UK, you can get something called a daytime MOT (WOF) and all you need is a rare reflector. So you'll see KX500's etc with no lights etc riding legally on the road.

Any you think it is a bad thing that we have "strict" rego wof requirements!!! I really dont think that having a system that makes it easier to reg bikes is going to increase the quality of the bikes on the road. We are talking about kiwi's here - any old POS will do. Hell we have one of the oldest average regod car ages in the western world.

It really isnt that hard to reg a bike in NZ and the cost is almost exactly the same appart from the higher rego cost - bloody ACC. All you need is reciept for proof of ownership, a declaration that it isnt stolen from the cops if you dont have previous ownership papers, a brake check and the indicators/tail light etc. Two peices of paper, some dosh and a up to WOF standard bike. How hard is that?

[warewolf]

Just had a look on the Aussie ebay after reading WW's thread & like the US ebay am amazed how few bikes are listed on there for the size of the population. We must be the biggest 2nd hand online traders in the world.

You are presuming that ebay is the primary listing place for bikes... may not be the case.

In NZ, classified advertisers don't pay to list. So you get lots of listings from speculative sellers just to see if they get a bite. When you have to pay to list (ebay, most Aussie classifieds) only the serious sellers will list, and the price will be much more realistic.

And also in Aus, or at least NSW, when you buy a used vehicle you have to pay 3% stamp duty - that in itself discourages 'churn'.

When I was shopping for my road-reg 250 trailie in 2003, they were hard to get and pricey. Often by the time I'd found the ad, the bike had sold - within 48 hours of listing. Might be different now with trademe well established (more choice).

[Padmei]

Well I'll put an end to my little whinging session.
After talking to people who know a lot more about bikes than me I've decided it'll take a Lotto win for me to be happy. Any bikes around the $1000-1200 I wanted to spend aren't gonna be worth the effort & cost to get them trailworthy (remember I'm only after an ugly fun lite bike not anything special)
In the meantime old Gonzo with good knobs is a lot of fun.

[Woodman]

In the meantime old Gonzo with good knobs is a lot of fun.

Thats the spirit.................