She's a bit of a heifer - But I think I love Paula Bennett

[Tank]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10633815

The Government has announced it will toughen criteria for people to receive a benefit.

Prime Minister John Key announced today that the Government would try to encourage beneficiaries to work with making policy changes to start in October.

The key changes are:

* Expectations of part-time work for single parents on the domestic purposes benefit when their child reaches six and for people on the sickness benefit deemed capable of part-time work.

* Allowing Work and Income case managers to cut benefits by half as a sanction, followed by a full suspension then a cancellation.

* Employment benefits limited to a year. Beneficiaries must reapply after a year with a comprehensive work assessment.

* More frequent assessments of people on a sickness benefit, with the first two medical assessments only good for four weeks each, and a compulsory reassessment after 12 months.

[Tank]

And the bludgers who dont like it will probably fuck off to Australia - even better!

[scumdog]

And the bludgers who dont like it will probably fuck off to Australia - even better!

That we should be to lucky!

We can only live in hope, live in hope....

[Tank]

That we should be to lucky!

We can only live in hope, live in hope....

View Larger Map


Hope????????

[Mully]

No complaints here.

*waits for Labour voters to come along and explain how this is a plot*

[Swoop]

About fucking time.

Go Paula!!

[Ronin]

No complaints here.

*waits for Labour voters to come along and explain how this is a plot*

you must spread some more etc etc etc.

[MisterD]

No complaints here.

*waits for Labour voters to come along and explain how this is a plot*

Where have they gone? I was expecting lots of foaming at the mouth about mining but.....silence.

[Ixion]

Window dressing. It will make no difference whatsoever.

So, DPB recipients are going to have to 'look' for *part time* work once sprog is six. There's bugger all part time work available, and 'look for' is easily satisifed - just pick half a dozen local businesses that definately dont have part time jobs "hi - me again, any part time jobs? yeah I know I asked last week. No. Thanks, I'll just put my call on my looking for work list. Now, next door".

Ditto 'reapply for dole after a year". So, what are they going to do when Bert reapplies? Why, put him on the dole of course. If he's been on the dole fo a year either (a) he's over 50 and has no chance of finding work ;(b) has special needs or such like, ditto ; (c) is a tattooed neanderthal who will make sure no-one will ever offer him work, ditto ;or (d) is in a recession hit industry where there simply are no jobs going, ditto

The only effect will be to harrass sickness beneficiaries regularly. Some of them are druggies who could do with harrassing (though it will serve no purpose), but some of thema re dying of cancer or such like. Way to go, make a dying mans last months miserable.

[dogsnbikes]

Of course this all done on a case by case and needs Basis,but why shouldn't people be out making an effort,rather than sitting at home drinking piss etc etc its the long termers that have made a career out of getting the benefit that has the working class getting their back's up...

biggest problem is that its not wether there is part-time work its the fact that many of them on benefits want the $20/hr pay packet for a $10/hr experience,they simply just dont want too work,

I say Fuck them if they dont want too work why should we feed them

New Zealand is just too soft and too PC its time to harden up folks and lets go minning

Just my thought's

[centaurus]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=10633815

The Government has announced it will toughen criteria for people to receive a benefit.

Prime Minister John Key announced today that the Government would try to encourage beneficiaries to work with making policy changes to start in October.

The key changes are:

* Expectations of part-time work for single parents on the domestic purposes benefit when their child reaches six and for people on the sickness benefit deemed capable of part-time work.

* Allowing Work and Income case managers to cut benefits by half as a sanction, followed by a full suspension then a cancellation.

* Employment benefits limited to a year. Beneficiaries must reapply after a year with a comprehensive work assessment.

* More frequent assessments of people on a sickness benefit, with the first two medical assessments only good for four weeks each, and a compulsory reassessment after 12 months.

Remember this is the goverment version. Don't forget that the nats have always been about cutting social welfare funds and helping businesses (especially big ones). I'm not saying it's a bad thing they're doing (I don't have enough information to make a decision yet) but you have to remember that the ACC entitlement cut-off for rape victims was dressed in very nice words and for the joe-public without other info to rely on it seemed very sound and of common sense.

It is very possible that under this "help people find jobs" umbrella there are much darker agendas - slashing wellfare budgets no matter the costs, even if it ends up sending some people in poverty.

[scumdog]

Hope????????

Use to live not THAT far away from there in the 60's.....a bit of a ride on me pushbike !

But never lived there.

[scumdog]

Way to go, make a dying mans last months miserable.

Hell, death will fix all that.

[Mully]

The only effect will be to harrass sickness beneficiaries regularly. Some of them are druggies who could do with harrassing (though it will serve no purpose), but some of thema re dying of cancer or such like. Way to go, make a dying mans last months miserable.

Annually is not exceptionally regularly. Plus I would suggest that "dying of cancer" would have you on an invalids benefit anyway. Or, they would be visiting a Doctor at least annually.

Compulsory reassessment of Mrs Mully's mother (who falls into this category) is as simple as a "Doc, can you please renew the letter for WINZ" and it's done.

The difference is, of course, that Mrs Mully's mother wants to work and has been forbidden - unlike some of the losers who are "addicted to pot, bro, and can't work, eh?"

I'm not saying this new idea is perfect, but it's nice to have a Govt who makes noises about getting long-term unemployed off the dole and possibly contributing to the country, rather than shuffling unemployed onto the sickness benefit

[Ixion]

Every month for sickness beneficiaries. One suspects that the "assessments" will not be able to be made by the sick person's regular doctor - if they are, then that also is mere window dressing. It will never be possible to effectively control benefit abuse so long as an inflated level of unemployment is used by the government as a mechansim to hold down wages. So long as there are more workers than jobs, someone has to be unemployed.

, with three medical assessments during the first twelve weeks, a further assessment every twelve weeks thereafter, and a more comprehensive reassessment after 12 months.