Road or Rider

**Will** · 5th April 2010, 09:58

When you have been there, it makes more sense that the majority of American riders cannot cope with a few corners.

We did a part of Route 66 including Oatman and Sitgreaves Pass. At Oatman we were enjoying the "town " life when a group of bikers came in from Sitgreaves Pass. The comments coming from the group were very interesting.We were about to do it and thought that it was finally going to be some roads to ride.
We really enjoyed the Pass as it was like home. There were actual corners instead of curves. One had to think instead of being on cruise control.

We would have liked to have stopped off at the Rock Shop (where the roads on the video are) but ran out of time.

**Jonno.** · 5th April 2010, 12:26

Originally Posted by Toaster

Reminds me of a medium speed crash I saw online. I think it was an asian couple. The pillion was killed and torn apart between the legs after hitting the post under the guard rail.

Good times!

**Swoop** · 5th April 2010, 14:54

An extremely dry and potentially dusty environment that can leave a fine dust on the road. Ride to the conditions.

**R-Soul** · 26th May 2010, 22:02

Originally Posted by smoky

You can't go around the corner with your front brake hard on - one of the most common reasons people come off, panic and hit the brakes

The one on the blue bike who comes off; you can see as he's cornering he is actually leaning less than the bike - his body weight being higher than the bike - then his front wheel tips in? did he apply the brake?
Poor body position?

The guy on the white bike is in a better position, but I'm guessing his head and shoulders should be lower, then the bike doesn't have to be over as much - looks like a combination of light dust or crap on the tar and too much throttle at the wrong time

The real problem though is that they're all on the wrong side of the road

Look at the difference in widths between the left lane and the right lane. The right lane is clearly smaller in the picture. To me that indicates that the camber has changed to off camber. That could catch anybody who doesn't look for camber changes. Throw in a bit of dust...

EDIT: I had a look at all the bikes that came off there- even the slow ones with no bad throttle control came off. It really does make you wonder if it is as simple as camber or dust - even dust would offer some grip. But in some of these, the grip just goes for no apparent reason. I seriously wonder if there is any dodgy substance on the road for the benefit of the cameras...

**PrincessBandit** · 26th May 2010, 22:24

Originally Posted by Maha

They all amusing though eh?...which is why I put them up.
Nothing too serious just, slow-mo lowsides.

Nothing too serious? Holy hell, I'd be shitting myself sliding ever-so-ungracefully toward that barrier. Only takes one bad bounce and that looks like a pretty unforgiving drop on the other side...

and for the record, I think "rider" as my answer.