Proposed "ADOPT A NEWBIE" Discussion thread

[Sparky Bills]

This is a bloody good idea!
Just need to make sure the teachers are open minded to peoples own riding styles.
Good luck.

[White trash]

Anyone who wants to ride like me shouldn't be allowed a licence. Plain and simple.

I've sorted ol' Mikey out quite well. Although he hasn't actually ever ridden with me (other than being a willing pillion, sick bastard), he has been allowed to come 'round home and get smashed with us.

Keep it up young fella, you're doing well.

[Biff]

I've got loads of old riding notes handed to me over the years. I'll get these scanned and put into a decent format so that they can be posted here.

Good idea guys - We need a riding skills section me thinks.

[Sparky Bills]

Just a thought for EVERYONE here.

Go read (if you havent already) Keith Code's "Twist of the Wrist".

That is one great book!!!
Well worth it!!!

[White trash]

Good idea guys - We need a riding skills section me thinks.

I agree, however peoples ideas of riding skills differ wildly.

A few people I know view a 1.5 km, one footer, stand up wheelie up the Hutt Rd as skillfull. Others see it as stupidity.

[Waylander]

I agree, however peoples ideas of riding skills differ wildly.

A few people I know view a 1.5 km, one footer, stand up wheelie up the Hutt Rd as skillfull. Others see it as stupidity.

Perhaps call it Riding safty then to keep the crazies like yourself out.

[Paul in NZ]

I think that there is a good point raised here..

'Helping' people is a noble exercise and this is genuinely a good idea BUT we need to consider the implications when we live in the era of the RMA, H&S and dodgy lawyers... If you give someone some advice and then that someone either gets it wrong OR the advice was not quite right... You could end up in a bit of bother. Now I have no idea of the legal status of a group like this but I'll bet that there is a law some place covering all this...

Having said all that....

There has to be a way to make this work... It's just such a good idea.

Example. Jazbug5 (sorry dearie I should have cleared this with you) had a wee off a while back... As a result of some of the discussions we had around that we changed her handle bars for a set that fitted her better out of my pile of old munt. She had never thought of that (not her fault - its not commonly done these days).. But it was a good result....

So for these sorts of things... Yes it is useful...

Riding tips might be best left to qualified people.... And to that end, perhaps we can arrange a KiwiBiker discount etc...

I dunno...

Look at my situation. All my old shitters require a completely different riding style to modern bikes. Following me with my skinny cartwheels, zero engine braking, minimal brake braking (yet linked so I can trail brake much deeper into corners and give them a dab to settle the beast) and you would get some bloody funny ideas about riding bikes. It would be as useful as explaining hand gear change techniques to an R1 test pilot. Technically interesting but practically pointless...

So there we go...

I give this idea my full support but with a few reservations..

Cheers

[spudchucka]

This is a very good idea. Hopefully plenty of people will get behind it.

[Quasievil]

I think that there is a good point raised here..

'Helping' people is a noble exercise and this is genuinely a good idea BUT we need to consider the implications when we live in the era of the RMA, H&S and dodgy lawyers... If you give someone some advice and then that someone either gets it wrong OR the advice was not quite right... You could end up in a bit of bother. Now I have no idea of the legal status of a group like this but I'll bet that there is a law some place covering all this...

Having said all that....

There has to be a way to make this work... It's just such a good idea.

Example. Jazbug5 (sorry dearie I should have cleared this with you) had a wee off a while back... As a result of some of the discussions we had around that we changed her handle bars for a set that fitted her better out of my pile of old munt. She had never thought of that (not her fault - its not commonly done these days).. But it was a good result....

So for these sorts of things... Yes it is useful...

Riding tips might be best left to qualified people.... And to that end, perhaps we can arrange a KiwiBiker discount etc...

I dunno...

Look at my situation. All my old shitters require a completely different riding style to modern bikes. Following me with my skinny cartwheels, zero engine braking, minimal brake braking (yet linked so I can trail brake much deeper into corners and give them a dab to settle the beast) and you would get some bloody funny ideas about riding bikes. It would be as useful as explaining hand gear change techniques to an R1 test pilot. Technically interesting but practically pointless...

So there we go...

I give this idea my full support but with a few reservations..

Cheers

Great stuff Oh wise one, youre right to.

I think however this is pretty low level stuff, more of coupling people up to go riding with and in doing this giving the new rider a opportunity to ask a couple of questions about riding in general.
Of course if riders want specailist training on braking cornering maintenance they should enrol in a bike school.
Legally there is no exposure because we are matching people up, what they do as licenced road users is there responsibility.
Kind of like a typical "KB newbie ride" without the 40 bikes going along, it will be a "KB newbie ride" with two bikes only.
Quality not quantity

We already have about 6 riders registered as being interested in having a mentor so already these people are in a better position than they were yesterday.
I appreciate your comments and glad to have your support.

[sAsLEX]

http://www.bikepoint.co.nz/portal/al...opDefault.aspx here has some good info, i think

[Ixion]

Great stuff Oh wise one, youre right to.

I think however this is pretty low level stuff, more of coupling people up to go riding with and in doing this giving the new rider a opportunity to ask a couple of questions about riding in general.
Of course if riders want specailist training on braking cornering maintenance they should enrol in a bike school.
Legally there is no exposure because we are matching people up, what they do as licenced road users is there responsibility.
Kind of like a typical "KB newbie ride" without the 40 bikes going along, it will be a "KB newbie ride" with two bikes only.
Quality not quantity

We already have about 6 riders registered as being interested in having a mentor so already these people are in a better position than they were yesterday.
I appreciate your comments and glad to have your support.

Apart from any legal issues, there is the risk of passing on bad habits.

I am always happy to assist anyone if I can. But I am very conscious that any advice I gave might be bad advice. And certainly I am the last person to be advising on cornering lines and such like. "long in the tooth" riders always pick up bad habits and things "that work for me , but don't you do it" (OK, OK, you're the exception)

When I started riding I realised I knew nothing. Then after a bit of experience I thought I knew a lot. Then after much more experience I thought I knew everything. Then after still more experience I realised I knew very little. Now I'm not certain that I know anything for sure !

[dangerous]

Go read Keith Code's "Twist of the Wrist".

That is one great book!!!
Well worth it!!!

And another is " the bikers bible" by Graham Allardice

Apart from any legal issues, there is the risk of passing on bad habits.

I am always happy to assist anyone if I can. But I am very conscious that any advice I gave might be bad advice. And certainly I am the last person to be advising on cornering lines and such like. "long in the tooth" riders always pick up bad habits and things "that work for me , but don't you do it" (OK, OK, you're the exception)

When I started riding I realised I knew nothing. Then after a bit of experience I thought I knew a lot. Then after much more experience I thought I knew everything. Then after still more experience I realised I knew very little. Now I'm not certain that I know anything for sure !

LOL... well said, also whos to say who is any good at teaching.... I have helped out a few riders and most are happy to learn and take in what I say.... but whos to say that I'm right.... I think I am but that dosent realy mean shit at the end of the day.

More than happy to offer advice, just remember that it is IMHO

[LED]

I agree, however peoples ideas of riding skills differ wildly.

A few people I know view a 1.5 km, one footer, stand up wheelie up the Hutt Rd as skillfull. Others see it as stupidity.

Definitely skills - hats off, well done. You better not be letting the truth get in the way of a good story!!