Two bikes, one speed reading, two tickets

[rastuscat]

Yo Cr1MiNaL

You are entitled to your opinion as above, but it's wrong.

So there.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Yo Cr1MiNaL

You are entitled to your opinion as above, but it's wrong.

So there.

It's not wrong, I was the second rider Korumba mentioned. I met him after this incident of cause. Just trying to help a noob, don't take my advice and just pay up if u want. It's not my money or my demerits. So there.

[rastuscat]

That the staff at the PiB negated the tickets doesn't explain why. There are many reasons why. If you had gone to court and won I'd maybe agree with you, but the Police withdrawing the ticket for some undisclosed reason doesn't mean the ticket shouldn't have been written in the first place, and certainly doesn't mean you would have won in court.

Good on you for the win, but it was in the Police system, not the court.

[Max Preload]

Rastuscat is correct.

Didn't even actually make it to court 2 letters and 4 months later we were both acquited of the charges with no explanation given. Write in don't even sweat it.

You weren't acquited - the infringement notice was cancelled. There are many reasons for this to happen.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Rastuscat is correct.



You weren't acquited - the infringement notice was cancelled. There are many reasons for this to happen.

What you say is true. I was not acquitted I stand corrected - the notice was canceled. However I know enough about law and have received enough tickets to call bs and know what will fly in court. I am no stranger to this. The tickets were spot on 100% the officers had been in the force about 10 years, this I checked internally too. The calibration of the device was accurate too. There was nothing missing, I checked everything. The question being asked prompted my post in this thread, your comments as aforementioned are valid however misdirected.

[R-Soul]

That the staff at the PiB negated the tickets doesn't explain why. There are many reasons why. If you had gone to court and won I'd maybe agree with you, but the Police withdrawing the ticket for some undisclosed reason doesn't mean the ticket shouldn't have been written in the first place, and certainly doesn't mean you would have won in court.

Good on you for the win, but it was in the Police system, not the court.

Look at the facts - its a criminal case, so they have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that YOU were guilty. Not both of you as a group. Now if they cannot even tell who was actually speeding, much less what the other rider was doing or not doing, how on earth do you expect them to prove this?

I think the cops push their luck a bit in the hope that the people receiving the fine will just pay the admission of guilt on the notic eof intention to prosecute, and not put them through the process of having to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. And it probably does work. Sometimes. But lets face it, if push comes to shove, no self respecting prosecutor is going to be prepared to try to argue this one in court.... he would lose serious credibility with the judge.

[doc]

Again Bullshit. In the UK the lead riders speed is used to ascertain the groups speed even if the group was not speeding, but no such law here in NZ. You cannot be done unless he can pin point you. And in this case he could'nt.

Well you can be my lawyer next time, I wasn't prepared to take a day off work and travel 800k return to fight an 80 dollar ticket. Actually the three of us didn't want too. There was no way they were prepared to drop the charge.


Just don't start a fire at the courthouse when you do

[peasea]

Well you can be my lawyer next time, I wasn't prepared to take a day off work and travel 800k return to fight an 80 dollar ticket.

I don't think any sensible person would, that's what the cops prey on, it's easy money. You should at least plead 'not guilty' and go for a defended hearing just to add to the paperwork for them and then they have to turn up to court, you don't. That's worth 80 bucks, surely. Oh, and the 30 bucks court costs of course, still money well spent to get the cock off the road for an hour. Sometimes people get lucky and the cops drop it, that's happened to me and a couple of mates. Well worth the price of a stamp to plead not guilty whatever the charge.