Just another speeding ticket thread

[Jizah]

So a friend of mine got a speed camera ticket for doing 55km/h in a school zone. I know the tolerance was lowered to 5km/h for such zones.
My question is, was there also a time window they put on it? Because from what I gathered they were doing it up until 9am in the morning, then again after 3pm in the afternoon.
Was wondering this because the ticket was at 10.05am.

Not trying to get off the ticket, she's already paid and she had no qualms about paying it. It's just my inquisitive nature got the better of me so I thought I would ask.

[Spuds1234]

As far as I was aware it was for as long as there are children inside the school grounds.

[gwigs]

Its 40k in school zones at the posted times.So he was 15k over.

[yachtie10]

Its 40k in school zones at the posted times.So he was 15k over.

Only the zones that are designated are 40
they are clearly signposted

[swbarnett]

So a friend of mine got a speed camera ticket for doing 55km/h in a school zone.

This really gets my goat. No speedo is that accurate. In Switzerland they reduce the recorded speed by 5km then ticket accordingly.

[swbarnett]

Its 40k in school zones at the posted times.So he was 15k over.

Not at 10:05. The 40k restriction should be well over by then.

[rastuscat]

This really gets my goat. No speedo is that accurate. In Switzerland they reduce the recorded speed by 5km then ticket accordingly.

The official tolerance outside schools is 4 km/h, so 5 over gets a ticket. It costs $30. Don't exceed the speed limit outside schools and VOILA !!!!!, no tickets.

The problem is the tolerance, and our expectation of being allowed to exceed the actual limit.

And as stated, the 40 km/h thing only applies in those places it is posted. And the normal tolerance (4 km/h) is applied to that.

[swbarnett]

The official tolerance outside schools is 4 km/h, so 5 over gets a ticket.

My point is that a speedo can be reading 50 when in actual fact a radar gun will record you doing 55. Not to mention that there is an implicit inaccuracy when reading a dial speedo. I'm not saying that you should be allowed to speed past schools, just that giving out tickets for speeding when it is reasonable for a driver to have been certain that they were not (according to their speedo) is going to acheive exactly nothing and is simply revenue gathering.

[BiK3RChiK]

People should be slowing down near school zones anyways.... Little kids are so unpredictable! It amazes me how many speed up coming up to a certain school zone in the 70km/hr limit on SH2 near here because the 100km/hr limit is 10 meters past the school gate! The cops should put a permanent camera up there, I reckon. They'd make a killing and it might wake a few individuals up.

[onearmedbandit]

My point is that a speedo can be reading 50 when in actual fact a radar gun will record you doing 55. Not to mention that there is an implicit inaccuracy when reading a dial speedo. I'm not saying that you should be allowed to speed past schools, just that giving out tickets for speeding when it is reasonable for a driver to have been certain that they were not (according to their speedo) is going to acheive exactly nothing and is simply revenue gathering.

Speedos generally err on the positive side. IE your speedo shows you doing 55km/h but most likely you're doing anything from 48-55km/h. Very rare
(unless gearing has been changed) for them to under read.

[Berries]

Speedos generally err on the positive side. IE your speedo shows you doing 55km/h but most likely you're doing anything from 48-55km/h. Very rare (unless gearing has been changed) for them to under read.

+1. If your speedo reads lower than your actual speed then you could get ticketed anywhere. I am sure I have a vague memory in the back of my head that in the UK speedo's are not allowed to read a lower speed, legally, but there is an allowance for to read above.

Based on that I always keep to under 115km/h on my digital speedo if I know cops are about to allow for speedo tolerance and then the Police tolerance on top of that. I'm knackered if my speedo is 100% accurate, but I've not had a problem yet.

[rastuscat]

Speedos generally err on the positive side. IE your speedo shows you doing 55km/h but most likely you're doing anything from 48-55km/h. Very rare
(unless gearing has been changed) for them to under read.

Invariably speedos read optimistic. I had a really cool Gilera 180cc scooter once, when the spedo said 80 I was doing 60. It's 'coz the Italians love to think they are going fast.
My 1150 Beemer reads 110 at 100 true. My fairly new Corolla is dead on, per my Tom Tom.

The problem arises when you put bigger tyres on a car. If the rolling circumference is bigger by more than a certain % you will start getting tickets, as your speedo will read under. I understand it is actually illegal to increase the overall rolling circumference by more than a certain %, just to avoid this. You can do it, but it has to be certified.

I'm not saying that you should be allowed to speed past schools, just that giving out tickets for speeding when it is reasonable for a driver to have been certain that they were not (according to their speedo) is going to acheive exactly nothing and is simply revenue gathering

A ticket in the 1-10 km/h over any limit band costs $30, and fine the money doesn't go to the Police. Interested in a fact? It costs $27 for the Police to issue, process, enforce each and every ticket written (excluding camera tickets, I think). That's the total cost of the paperwork, the resources and the people who are paid to write and process tickets, all divided by the number of tickets written. So, writing a ticket for $30 costs $27, meaning a net outcome of $3, which the Police don't get. Hmmmmm......... even a cop can work out that it's a pretty poor method of revenue collecting. Maybe, just maybe, the individual cop who writes the ticket isn't motivated by the money it raises.

Go figure, why would they spend time outside schools revenue collecting (for someone else) when it would be far more lucrative standing at any stop sign in the country ($150 and lets face it, stop signs are almost universally ignored here), enforcing the L-plate rule ($100 and hardly ever written), any number of more sensible things.

Maybe, just maybe, the cops actually want their presence to slow people down around schools.

Imagine that.

[rastuscat]

Our tolerance is liberal by world standards. For example, in some states in Oz, they ticket at 3 km/h over any given limit.

[red mermaid]

Easy answer to this...think of the kids and drive so that your speedo indicates a speed of 40 km/h and will never have a problem outside schools with a 50 km/h limit. So simple and stupid I'm surprised you never thought of it?

This really gets my goat. No speedo is that accurate. In Switzerland they reduce the recorded speed by 5km then ticket accordingly.

[onearmedbandit]

On my regular rides out I go past a couple of schools that have the 40km/h limit. It's easy to stick to that speed for 500m just to ensure a kiddie doesn't run out and get collected. And I love watching the frustrated looks on the faces of the car drivers behind me.