Position in seat?

[Tank]

This is new to me... I've always hugged the tank.

[Katman]

There is little or no point developing our own riding style from scratch and then embedding it into habit over a year or two, when we can simply nick someone elses' more experienced one and go away and rehearse it.

Steve

The trouble with inexperienced riders filling up their brains with too much theory in too short a time is that when it comes to the crunch the brain cannot process all the information that it has fast enough.

That's why riding skills need to be learned gradually if they are ever to have the chance of becoming instinctive.

[Maha]

Didn't know there was set rule as to where you should sit on ya bike?
At times I am balls to tank, other times I slide back a bit, depends on the mode...

[Sentox]

Hopefully it makes up for all those balls people are pressing against you, eh?

[Headbanger]

This thread is insane.

Only time I consciously consider my arse is when it gets sore, then I move it somewhere it isn't quite so sore....until it gets sore again, at which time I do another little shuffle.

[Maha]

This thread is insane.

Only time I consciously consider my arse is when it gets sore, then I move it somewhere it isn't quite so sore....until it gets sore again, at which time I do another little shuffle.

Basically what I was saying.
Some things can be over analysed

[Katman]

I'm surprised p.dath hasn't made it a Wiki topic yet.

[R-Soul]

Sounds sensible, enjoy!

If you really want to learn how to ride a road bike tho, sell the one you have and buy a road legal trail bike and ride in the dirt.

It does give you more confidence if your back wheel steps out of line, but is not always the way to go. I just recently had a cousin come over to visit. He has cut his teeth on trail bikes, is avery experienced rider, rides a KTM 950 Super Enduro , and was still using trail bike technique to go around corners on tar at 200km/hr - and he was wondering why his traction was rubbish...

When I say trail bike technique, I mean leaning your body in an opposite direction to the turn, and sticking a leg out. But not necessarily breaking traction by powering on.

The way I see (and correct me if I am wrong), trail bike technique is for relatively low speed corners where you lean the bike over in an effort to reduce the turning circle, and to encourage the breaking of traction to swing the direction of the bike around to exit the corner with strong acceleration- NOT something you want to do on a fast tar road. Sure the supermoto riders do it that way, but they actually spin their wheeels into a corner on purpose to assist their bike in changing direction. It takes a lot of guts and skill (and stupidity) to attempt that at speed on the road....

[sinfull]

I'm surprised p.dath hasn't made it a Wiki topic yet.

He's thinking it over ! Or emailing someone in the UK about it !

[jonbuoy]

Theres a lot worse threads around, a new rider asking for advise on how to stop sliding around in the seat isn't that outrageous, daft or even overthinking it.

[Katman]

Theres a lot worse threads around, a new rider asking for advise on how to stop sliding around in the seat isn't that outrageous, daft or even overthinking it.

Refer post #34

[jonbuoy]

Refer post #34

If hes not gripping the tank or using his feet for bracing he won't have to be braking particularly hard at the end of a motorway or on a steep down hill to be sliding forward in the seat, especially if he made the schoolboy error of using armour all or plastic polish on the seat or tank sides - which sounds like a possibility.

[sinfull]

If hes not gripping the tank or using his feet for bracing he won't have to be braking particularly hard at the end of a motorway or on a steep down hill to be sliding forward in the seat, especially if he made the schoolboy error of using armour all or plastic polish on the seat or tank sides - which sounds like a possibility.

Have you read "the pace" ?

[Sentox]

Should probably clarify a few things here.

1. I grip using my knees and my heels.

2. I am familiar with "the pace": my riding bible is Nick Ienatsch's Sport Riding Techniques. I'm not hurling myself into corners as hot as the bike can go, threshhold braking down to the tip-in point, and then coming on here to complain about sliding forward. I have the problem when cruising in 50kph zones, throttle open, no brakes. No matter how hard I grip the tank, I slide forward until my knees butt into the corners of the fairings, which isn't particularly comfortable. Braking, even mildly, just exacerbates the problem. This, however, leads to point three.

3. Yes, I did use polish on the sides of the tank. Bit of a facepalm in retrospect. At least I'm not dumb enough to armor-all the seat

[jonbuoy]

Have you read "the pace" ?

Yes - I started a thread a few years ago asking if anyone was interested in Pace rides, at the time there was very little interest and it was lost in the most bins wins threads. I use Nick Ienatsch Sport riding techniques as my bible, I still re-read as there is only so much you can take in at a time. The best bit of advise any newbie could get is to ignore all the bollocks and bravado on KB and buy a copy.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...ntash-The-Pace