I want to make a complaint

[Da Bird]

They'll never get it right, just assume they're all insane and may go in any direction at any moment without any notice or with contradictary notice.

That's really the only way to ride / drive in Auckland!

[scumdog]

First point: we had A roundamabout (Homer Simpson pronounciation) but got it removed from this town - ta-da, no more problem!!

And when in the 'big-smoke" i.e. Dangerous's town, well it's simple and logical, just put on the hazard lights - caters for all eventualities and changes in direction

See, I'm no th' only canny Scot on this site eh Jazbug?

[Ixion]

My philosophy , which makes sense of it is:

When waiting/entering the roundabout I signal where I will EVENTUALLY go - left, signal left, eventually end up hiving off to the right, signal right, straight ahead, no signal

Once I am ON the roundabout I treat it just like a curved bit of road - and If I'm going to deviate left or right (usually, left, to exit) I signal accordingly.

[Lou Girardin]

What the hell is wrong with people in this country? Suddenly there's confusion about a rule that's been in the Road Code for 20 years. Even a newbie about to do his test publicly asks about the indicating rule. If you don't know it at the point, you're in trouble. No bloody wonder we're the equivalent of Turkey in driving standards.
One sure way to reduce congestion would be to bring in licence retesting, that'll surely put half our drivers off the road.

[Beemer]

In the past I used my indicators as a courtesy at roundabouts - that is, I would always use the left or right indicator if I was turning, and although I wouldn't indicate if going straight ahead, if there was traffic waiting that had to give way to me if I were turning right, I would indicate to show I was exiting and they didn't have to give way to me. But with some roundabouts they are so small you really don't have time to indicate - I think there is some mention made of the size in the rules, but who knows how big a roundabout is in metres - I know I wouldn't!

No, I reckon the best rule would be for NO ONE to indicate at a roundabout EVER - that way everyone would be expecting you to cross their path and wouldn't move until you exited the roundabout! This focus on indicating will make absolutely no difference to the people who a) never indicate at roundabouts, b) those who never give way to traffic at roundabouts, and c) those who knew you had the right of way but thought they could beat you.

[MD]

Waylander laided it out clear as with his 9 o'clock, 12 o'clock description.
Trouble I've observed is pratts going straight through, trying too hard or nervous they wont get to indicate their left departure in time, put on the left indicator METRES BEFORE ENTERING THE R/BOUT. So as they enter at 6 o'clock the traffic ahead of them (at their 9 oclock) are fooled into false security that the pratts not about to cross their path ..bang, crash

[denill]

- I think there is some mention made of the size in the rules, but who knows how big a roundabout is in metres - I know I wouldn't!.

Uh oh, didn't know that. (Writes he who thinks he knows everything.)
Does anyone know what diameter the Roundabout has to be - before indication is required??

-No, I reckon the best rule would be for NO ONE to indicate at a roundabout EVER - that way everyone would be expecting you to cross their path and wouldn't move until you exited the roundabout! This focus on indicating will make absolutely no difference to the people who a) never indicate at roundabouts, b) those who never give way to traffic at roundabouts, and c) those who knew you had the right of way but thought they could beat you.

Not stupid. Certainly would rectify the crazy debacles presently witnessed at roundabouts.

Like - going straight ahead and putting left indicator on when entering???
With fuckwits like that on the roads it is a great wonder there are not MORE road deaths???

Cheers
Bill

[Fluffy Cat]

On a small roundabout i noticed that by the time you reach the point to indicate your exit when going straight on.You might get one flash if you are lucky before you cancel due to been in the exit.Try it sometime.
I doubt if the drivers in the left lane would see it but a car behind you might!?.He he you know it makes sense.

[denill]

Does anyone know what diameter the Roundabout has to be - before indication is required??

Should have written; before indication is required - exiting the Roundabout??

Cheers
Bill

[Hitcher]

Indicate in, indicate out. What's hard about that? It's not as though your left thumb is doing anything else at the time. Cager drivers juggling cellphones and mascara may have more of a problem...

[denill]

Indicate in, indicate out. What's hard about that?

It is not that it is hard - it is as has already been written, just totally impractical to indicate out on the small dia. roundabouts. Particularly those that are formed at an existing intersection, within the carriageway of the road......

A decent sized roundabout - no prob and in fact quite necessary.

[denill]

Does anyone know what diameter the Roundabout has to be - before indication is required??

Just answered my own question:
Talked to someone in Land Transport New Zealand and they said drivers are required to signal their exit from all roundabouts.
No matter what diameter.

They also supplied this LINK: which may, or may not be of interest.

Cheers
Bill

[Lou Girardin]

Indicate in, indicate out. What's hard about that? It's not as though your left thumb is doing anything else at the time. Cager drivers juggling cellphones and mascara may have more of a problem...

But Hitcher, how can you expect anyone to have to do that. Next you'll want them to keep a safe following distance and keep left.

[Hitcher]

It is not that it is hard - it is as has already been written, just totally impractical to indicate out on the small dia. roundabouts. Particularly those that are formed at an existing intersection, within the carriageway of the road...

A decent sized roundabout - no prob and in fact quite necessary.

A roundabout is a roundabout. Size, according to the law, is irrelevant. Another case of it's not how much you've got, it's what you do with it! Every roundabout I have ever seen is at an intersection. I sure that there is a good reason for this. Use your indicators in the prescribed manner. Get over it.

[Ixion]

A roundabout is a roundabout. Size, according to the law, is irrelevant. Another case of it's not how much you've got, it's what you do with it! Every roundabout I have ever seen is at an intersection. I sure that there is a good reason for this. Use your indicators in the prescribed manner. Get over it.

But size does matter
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When you take the requirement to "indicate *after* passing your penultimtae turn off, and before turning off ", together with the "indicate for three seconds rule.

If the intersection is one with zero separation between exits (I know of lots thus), this means you have only the width of one lane to do your signalling. If that lane is 8m wide, my maths says that your maximum speed through the roundabout cannot be any more than 11 kph.Which will seldom be realistic. At any greater speed you must break one rule or other