Police killing us again!

[miloking]

It started with the title "Police killing us again" and a news link for some context. Post #2 was a link to the R.I.P. thread. I'd say this one was always about getting angry and abusing cops.

I thought so too...umm obviously

[sinned]

Hmmm 815 posts, 17 watching the conversation. Reminder to myself; wait a few weeks for the police report, oh yes I do trust the Police to carry out a full review without bias.
Now - go and do something else.

[Littleman]

From NZTA website:


Appears the only valid reason for crossing the line is to enter a driveway, or turn down a sideroad. I don't think they meant the sideroad signalled on the signpost either.



Epic fail there.

Oh wait - there are mitigating circumstances of course.

List of mitigating circumstances:

1. It was a cop.
2. Ummmmm
3. Cops never do this kind of thing
4. There was a civilian passenger expecting a thrill ride with the doodah band and blinkenlights
5. There's gold in that thar hill
6. The road toll MUST come down
7. The maneuvre has been completed before, thousands of times
8. No policies or procedures were blatantly breached
9. You must ALWAYS blow on the pie

Therefore it is recommended that the veteran campaigner for road toll reduction be exonerated, given a medal at Queen's Birthday weekend, and appointed to a senior role at the Police Driving Instruction School, with accomodation funded from the public purse. Prior to his appointment it is further recommended that he receive ACC funded counselling to aid his recovery from any potential post-traumatic stress disorder.

In order to fund this initiative it is further recommended that the Waikato Police District increase the financial take from the issue of infringement notices by 5.3% by the end of Q3 2010.

Are you high?

[miloking]

It started with the title "Police killing us again" and a news link for some context. Post #2 was a link to the R.I.P. thread. I'd say this one was always about getting angry and abusing cops.

I thought so too...umm obviously

[Foxzee]

It started with the title "Police killing us again" and a news link for some context. Post #2 was a link to the R.I.P. thread. I'd say this one was always about getting angry and abusing cops.

I'm well aware how the thread started..and well aware of the RIP thread.....thanking god for KB rules over this stuff otherwise...he would have been dead before it happened

[Smifffy]

Are you high?

WTF?

Hmm more NZTA road code goodness from that bit about passing lanes:

No-passing line

On some sections of road there will be a solid yellow line painted on your side of the centre line. This line is called a no-passing line.

No-passing lines are usually there because it's unsafe to cross the centre line to pass, because features like hills and curves make it impossible to see if there is oncoming traffic.

Sometimes no-passing lines are marked because:

* there is already a passing lane on your side of the road and you must use that to pass
* the road is multi-laned, so you do not need to cross the no-passing line to pass.

You must not pass another vehicle if it means you have to cross over a no-passing line on your side of the centre line.

If you see a dashed yellow line on your side of the centre line, that means that a no-passing line is about to start. While you may come back over the dashed yellow line to finish passing, you must not cross it to start passing.

No-passing lines are usually there because it's unsafe to cross the centre line to pass, because features like hills and curves make it impossible to see if there is oncoming traffic.

Impossible they say.

Unsafe they say.

Glad there were no yellow lines in the pics I saw.

Another thing that troubles me:

Imagine you are in the poo, like seriously up shit creek, and you actually need a copper. Just by this amazing stroke of luck one happens to be there, right on hand in his fancy VE Commode with all of that trick cop shit hung off it. For whatever reason he decides he needs even more help, maybe even other emergency services, so he needs to get in touch with the people that organise all that bizzo.

What does he do?

Pulls out his cellphone to dial 111!!???

WTF?

You know you don't want him to be on XT!!

[miloking]

obviously what.......

You have found the threads that would be more up your ally...pointless dribble...it even changes colour for you

Ahh, iam too tired to explain shit to slow people...ok here it comes:

Ender ENzed said "I'd say this one was always about getting angry and abusing cops."

I quoted and said: I thought so too...umm obviously (obviously as in i've done my "cop bashing bit" & "getting angry" in last 100 or so posts")

And then you couldnt follow two posts back because it was too difficult and said: obviously what.......and all that other crap about being poitless dribble etc.

I can also draw you a picture if you still dont get it...

[pete376403]

WTF?Another thing that troubles me:
(snip)
What does he do?

Pulls out his cellphone to dial 111!!???

WTF?

(warning - Conspiracy-type theory follows)
That intrigued me in the witnesses comments, about "how the cop was so shaken he couldn't dial the cell-phone and so had to use the house phone, etc" - who was the cop calling? What did he have to report that couldn't have gone through the normal police comms centre? Surely that would have been the best and quickest way to get emergency services, especially ambulance for the rider (or was he already aware the rider was dead?)
From the pictures the car didn't appear so trashed that the radio would no longer work. Was he calling some sort of "clean-up" operation that sanitises police fuck-ups in some way?

[miloking]

(warning - Conspiracy-type theory follows)
That intrigued me in the witnesses comments, about "how the cop was so shaken he couldn't dial the cell-phone and so had to use the house phone, etc" - who was the cop calling? What did he have to report that couldn't have gone through the normal police comms centre? Surely that would have been the best and quickest way to get emergency services, especially ambulance for the rider (or was he already aware the rider was dead?)
From the pictures the car didn't appear so trashed that the radio would no longer work. Was he calling some sort of "clean-up" operation that sanitises police fuck-ups in some way?

he was calling his buddies to get there quick to help him hide the wrecks and remove the evidence....of course he coulnt use the radio, thats not secure. Also were they both so shaken that they couldnt dial "111"?

(also who was standing at the top of the hill making sure no other motorist ploughs into the wrecks? )

[Smifffy]

(warning - Conspiracy-type theory follows)
That intrigued me in the witnesses comments, about "how the cop was so shaken he couldn't dial the cell-phone and so had to use the house phone, etc" - who was the cop calling? What did he have to report that couldn't have gone through the normal police comms centre? Surely that would have been the best and quickest way to get emergency services, especially ambulance for the rider (or was he already aware the rider was dead?)
From the pictures the car didn't appear so trashed that the radio would no longer work. Was he calling some sort of "clean-up" operation that sanitises police fuck-ups in some way?

That was 30 years of training & experience in road trauma kicking in right there.

In the movies you always go to the isolated farm cottage to get help.

I seriously doubt that there is any conspiracy going on.

[PrincessBandit]

That was 30 years of training & experience in road trauma kicking in right there.

In the movies you always go to the isolated farm cottage to get help.

I seriously doubt that there is any conspiracy going on.

You do realise that this comment will either disappoint a whole lotta people or make them even more determined to prove there is one.....

[Smifffy]

You do realise that this comment will either disappoint a whole lotta people or make them even more determined to prove there is one.....

No, I didn't realise that at all. Sorry to anyone I disappointed, and good luck to those determined few. I imagine the farmhouse phone records will form part of the investigation.

[Toaster]

(warning - Conspiracy-type theory follows)
That intrigued me in the witnesses comments, about "how the cop was so shaken he couldn't dial the cell-phone and so had to use the house phone, etc" - who was the cop calling? What did he have to report that couldn't have gone through the normal police comms centre? Surely that would have been the best and quickest way to get emergency services, especially ambulance for the rider (or was he already aware the rider was dead?)
From the pictures the car didn't appear so trashed that the radio would no longer work. Was he calling some sort of "clean-up" operation that sanitises police fuck-ups in some way?

Firstly, the officer, like anyone involved in a major vehicle crash would have likely crapped himself and be barely able to think straight given that he would be in shock.

Secondly, those radios have dead spots where it can be impossible to raise the communicators.

Thirdly, COMMS radio is one user at a time - if it was busy, he may not have been able to get through... happens alot when lots of stuff is going down at the same time.

Fourthly, Every man and his dog listens in on scanners and he may have tried to raise help without letting undesirables know so the scene could be secured and dealt with properly.

Lastly, and I make this very clear to those that hate the police - Police management deal with their own staff very harshly.

If you have a fatal crash, the serious crash unit investigates and will look at charges if you are found to be at fault.

If a cop does the same, they face further independent investigations, including CIB and also face conduct enquiries, which, even if cleared of charges could still lose their job, their income.

I would add though that I think they should face a very high level of review - they are expected to set an example.

[scracha]

900cc Kawasaki racing a diesel Mazda bounty. Oh gimmie a break. Anyone else consider the whole 154 kay thing may have been made up by the cop and his buddy to cover the fact they've pulled a fatal U-turn to pull a guy nipping along at 115? We'll never really know I guess.

[crshbndct]

Guys did you read this: http://www.3news.co.nz/Default.aspx?...2637=1#comment

probably old news but what realy gets me is this bit:

Local resident and past motor racer Frank Wilkin heard the incident form his home and says the motorbike was travelling at a fast speed.

I heard this motorbike coming and thought, ‘Wow, that’s travelling fast,’ and as it came I heard just a fraction of a movement, deceleration and then this boom,” he says

Who the fuck is 3news to twist shit like that....also no offence Mr. Wilkin the Motor racer, i am impressed at your hearing abilities to recognize speeding vehicle merely from doppler effect!!! You should work for Police, you would be uselful so we would save taxpayers money on lazer guns!

wow.
just, wow.
bikes always sound faster than cars.
i used to respect cops. but now? nah. if there is anything other than "dangerous driving causing death" and jail time here, i am going to go postal. they are digging up these people to support their story, yet noone has questioned how a mazda bounty can do 154 UP a hill (on the other side of the crest) i know that the last of the mazda bounty utes (the most powerful diesel ones, before the bt-50 came out) can do no more than 170(indicated, probably a lot less actual) on a flat. sounds like the cops are already piecing together their case.

i have dealt with the law. i know how cops really are. the truth is second to getting a conviction. just as road safety is second to $$$