Police killing us again!

[Robert Taylor]

I have a great deal of respect for many policemen. How did you feel about the guy in the car?

Angry ( obviously ) at his failure to take due care and attention before pulling out onto the road into my path. But I dont have a disdain for all farmers on the basis of one persons poor judgement. I never set eyes on the guy as I was unconscious for a long period of time.

[Robert Taylor]

Speed was a factor, but it was the other party's fault.

I do not 100% agree that it was totally the other parties fault. I was speeding and the result was more catastrophic. Whether I could have stopped in time if I was doing the legal limit I do not know. Heck, my speed may have been the deciding factor in throwing me clear of the impact point, that Ill never know. Im just grateful that I survived and that my top shelf leathers and helmet assisted in that respect. Im also grateful that the other party wasnt hurt in any way.

[Madmax]

If the cop was visable why would he still be speeding ?

[peasea]

Now there's an idea - we should be allowed to pick and choose which laws we can be arsed obeying.

And have a valid defence to go with it. Sounds good to me.

[Smifffy]

Attack?

Who?
How?

Would you settle for derided?

[Smifffy]

Angry ( obviously ) at his failure to take due care and attention before pulling out onto the road into my path. But I dont have a disdain for all farmers on the basis of one persons poor judgement. I never set eyes on the guy as I was unconscious for a long period of time.

What if the head man of federated farmers at the time publicly stated that the farmer was a great farmer, provided an excellent export income for the nation, and the naughty speeding biker was at fault?

[scumdog]

Would you settle for derided?

Only if shown where I derided any person.

[peasea]

Not being a Traffic Safety Patrol person I have no idea if such a memo came out or exists......

EDIT: My 'involvement' earlier did not encompass the tragic event that started this sad thread.

So you're not involved in Cycle Safety Week on the Riviera?
I thought you were the 'hub' of it and 'spoke' to everyone in the 'cycle' of events to 'pedal' your governing body's policies without a 'brake'.

[Smifffy]

I thought you derided Les a little and maybe a couple of others, but I can't be arsed trawling back through the thread again to gather evidence.

[Robert Taylor]

What if the head man of federated farmers at the time publicly stated that the farmer was a great farmer, provided an excellent export income for the nation, and the naughty speeding biker was at fault?

Then hed probably be right on 2 and a half counts.

[scumdog]

I thought you derided Les a little and maybe a couple of others, but I can't be arsed trawling back through the thread again to gather evidence.

From memory I only questioned Les (OK, a couple of times or so) re his comment that indicated killing motorcyclists by cops was rife in NZ.

But like you I can't be naffed re-travelling this thread to check for any other 'deriding'.

[Katman]

but I can't be arsed trawling back through the thread again to gather evidence.

That's the spirit.

[peasea]

From memory I only questioned Les (OK, a couple of times or so) re his comment that indicated killing motorcyclists by cops was rife in NZ.

But like you I can't be naffed re-travelling this thread to check for any other 'deriding'.

Lazy southern trollster.

[scumdog]

Lazy southern trollster.

Aw c'mon, we all have an off day now and then....

[Toaster]

What SCU? You mean the one guy in the whole of wellington region that only has time to show up and take photos. The police admit themselves that the SCU can't front up to court with any meaningful input.

Well, Ive seen SCU in court in Auckland, the one particular SCU guy was well experienced (16 years in SCU) and gave evidence against a cop I went thru college with... a cop who crashed after drink driving. He was hung out to dry and it ended his career. Sad, but he paid the price, career gone and all and multiple convictions to his name. Although I attended my own mates crash, I was kept away from the investigation becasue the boss up there wanted a proper independent investigation at an SCU level even though it was not even close to a fatality. There was no quarter given there at all.