Bloody motard riders

**DesmoDAZ** · 25th May 2010, 21:56

Originally Posted by gearte

if you not had much to do with motards kitt,keep ya comments to a self dick................

Ya spot on there gearte, i'm picking most people bagging motards have had bugger all to do with them, except being passed rnd the outside. We've all seen nanas go fast in a straight line, Ha Ha. ;-p

**Quasievil** · 26th May 2010, 07:27

Like this eh bro

**FzerozeroT** · 24th November 2010, 08:36

Too bad that I didn't see this closer to the time as I could have clarified/sorted something out

This was a road rider training day and the purpose was to get people to the track that normally wouldn't bother as they don't think they are fast enough / confident enough.

At the same trackday I wasn't allowed to take my NSR300 as the cornering speed would be too high - and I was one of the riding marshalls.

At the same track day we turned down quite a few litre bikes, a pair of guys who turned up on modified scooters, anyone on a race bike, anyone that we knew was just there for a cheap trackday.

I have to agree to a certain extent that we need to impress ACC and the local council, without them there wouldn't be the HMCC training day at Hampton Downs, but at the same time it's quite rewarding to cater to a market that wouldn't bother with a "Track Day" our B group is probably a C at most other Track Days, and our C's consist of GN250's, Viragos and the like. The A group is Bandits, Hornets and the like.

We decided that we finally wanted to have a Track Day where we could go on our own bikes (race bikes and motards included) and cut loose and then we can't get enough people to fill it, we just cant win!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-3-60-Nov-28th

**Quasievil** · 24th November 2010, 08:54

You live, hey dude !!

**ital916** · 24th November 2010, 17:10

Originally Posted by FzerozeroT

Too bad that I didn't see this closer to the time as I could have clarified/sorted something out

This was a road rider training day and the purpose was to get people to the track that normally wouldn't bother as they don't think they are fast enough / confident enough.

At the same trackday I wasn't allowed to take my NSR300 as the cornering speed would be too high - and I was one of the riding marshalls.

At the same track day we turned down quite a few litre bikes, a pair of guys who turned up on modified scooters, anyone on a race bike, anyone that we knew was just there for a cheap trackday.

I have to agree to a certain extent that we need to impress ACC and the local council, without them there wouldn't be the HMCC training day at Hampton Downs, but at the same time it's quite rewarding to cater to a market that wouldn't bother with a "Track Day" our B group is probably a C at most other Track Days, and our C's consist of GN250's, Viragos and the like. The A group is Bandits, Hornets and the like.

We decided that we finally wanted to have a Track Day where we could go on our own bikes (race bikes and motards included) and cut loose and then we can't get enough people to fill it, we just cant win!

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...-3-60-Nov-28th

Was there on the day and have to say it was very good. The HMCC crew were cool and the riding lessons were very very informative. However, as far as banning motards went, I didn't see any point as there were bikes there that would have been in the "too dangerous for a road training day" otherwise. R1's, cbr1000's. I quote one gentleman as saying "This is a great cheap trackday".

Lets see, in the b-class there were litres bikes, 600cc supersports, 250cc learner bikes, cruisers etc. If all of these were to be mixed together, why not motards, which would have been the same down the straights as the 250cc bikes. Alternatively, the motards could have been put in the 250cc (or greater bike) c class.

I was in the Fast group and by half way through the day it had turned into everyone going flat tack. Not bagging the day and organisation which was great but I dropped to b group to try and get myself better practice without fear of being suprised by people overtaking and undertaking me on corners (like one rider on a trumpy triple, taking me on the inside of the haripin

).

I find in hindsight, there was no point in banning motards. As a road training day, the top speeds people should have been hitting down the straight shouldn't be more than 120-130. Not racebike speeds.

Great day though, learnt lots, had fun and made friends. Again the HMCC crew are top people. Would happily go again....if my new bike was allowed lol

**FzerozeroT** · 25th November 2010, 00:07

Hey Quasi, been hanging out on the dirt but just added a set of 17" wheels to the WR to see what all this motard rubbish is all about

Ital, sorry to hear that the A group ended up like that, the speed of the group is supposed to be monitored by the riding marshals and I can't really comment as I was in the B group but this is the first that I've heard it was too fast, I was hearing that it was too slow from some.

I would have liked to have heard more about problems people had on the day, you probably didn't want to as it probably seemed like it was going pretty well and no-one wants to be 'that moaning bastard', as always we had problems when people were working on bikes doing suspension setup and we couldn't keep the groups to schedule, and organising all the marshalls for that track is a huge pain, but I think we managed to make it look easy and that's always good for appearances

I wasn't actually aware of a blanket ban on motards, and as far as I knew there was supposed to be a blanket ban on litre sportsbikes. The organising is underway for another one next year and I'll make sure that I raise the fact that there should be room to accommodate all types of bikes, The hardest thing to do is weed out those that are there to do some learning and those that just want a subsidised trackday (as you found out) and I suppose the easiest thing to do is generalise by type of bike

Anyway, I didn't raise this thread from the dead to justify decisions I didn't make or apologise for the way that the club tries to appeal to a mass market, just acknowleding a bit of criticism and I'll put it to the guys in charge and see what I can do.

**meteor** · 25th November 2010, 06:10

Thanks for clarifying FzerozeroT. I was the baned motard rider (at the time on a DRZ400SM... so not a rocketship). I know there were politics at play. Unfortunately the pre course paper work only talked about skill and learning desire. Nothing about bike type. The aim of the course was to increase the on road skills of new and medium ability riders by giving some cornering/braking/steering advice and to blacklist riders from learning that because of their bike I thought was unfair.... I still do.

**Shorty_925** · 26th November 2010, 11:51

Originally Posted by DesmoDAZ

Ya spot on there gearte, i'm picking most people bagging motards have had bugger all to do with them, except being passed rnd the outside. We've all seen nanas go fast in a straight line, Ha Ha. ;-p

You should see how people react when being passed by someone on a FXR150 around the outside of them