Time we got our perspective out there

**shrub** · 21st April 2010, 17:00

This is over Paul Brown's crash. To most of us it's pretty plain - the cop did a U turn in a stupid place and Paul paid, but there are a lot of citizens out there who see us as speed crazed loonies, and on the Campbell Live website is a discussion over the event where a lot of people are blaming the crash on Paul (or his mate in the ute).

I think it's a good time for us to stand up and put our story out there and explain that we're at risk from dangerous car drivers all the time, and that the police need a different policy to avoid killing more of us. The article is here: http://www.3news.co.nz/Motorcyclists...7/Default.aspx

**Ragingrob** · 21st April 2010, 17:15

Thanks, have posted.

**breakaway** · 21st April 2010, 17:31

Lol... I can't believe the comments.

"Convince me that the motorcyclist was the rare breed that wasn't speeding"

^ To this guy,

Would you be saying the same thing if it was your son? Or wife? It doesn't matter a fuck if he was speeding or not, the pig should NOT have been doing a u-turn there.

**mattian** · 21st April 2010, 17:39

It is unfortunate that the general public do see motorcyclists as risk taking, adrenalin junkies that like to flout the law. Its this very image that attracts alot of young men to bikes in the first place.

**shrub** · 21st April 2010, 17:59

Originally Posted by breakaway

Lol... I can't believe the comments.

"Convince me that the motorcyclist was the rare breed that wasn't speeding"

^ To this guy,

Would you be saying the same thing if it was your son? Or wife? It doesn't matter a fuck if he was speeding or not, the pig should NOT have been doing a u-turn there.

he's a typical self righteous citizen in a cage. He indignantly "tut tuts" when he sees us riding our meticulously maintained bikes at 120 kmh while he has a conversation with his wife, enjoys a snack and changes the station on his radio. He doesn't see the bike in his mirror when he pulls out to slowly gring past a car, he doesn't realise that the scooter he has just overtaken is now in the gravel and out of control and he doesn't realise that there is a bike in his blind spot when he changes lanes.

But he never speeds and never drinks and drives, so he is a safe and responsible driver.

**miloking** · 21st April 2010, 18:00

Originally Posted by mattian

It is unfortunate that the general public do see motorcyclists as risk taking, adrenalin junkies that like to flout the law. Its this very image that attracts alot of young men to bikes in the first place.

General public is bunch of sheep that are brain washed by TV adds that you and me paid for!! And guys that are saying that it could have been Mr.Browns own fault are just filthy scum!

**R6_kid:Me** · 21st April 2010, 18:02

Originally Posted by miloking

General public is bunch of sheep that are brain washed by TV adds that you and me paid for!!

Sounds like a lot of people that post on KB.

**Stormer** · 21st April 2010, 18:08

Originally Posted by r6_kid

sounds like a lot of people that post on kb.

ha!!!!!!!!

**R6_kid:Me** · 21st April 2010, 18:15

I've just watched the video in that link. I gotta say, it's a very balanced discussion from all points of view. Well done to Campbell Live.

**JimO** · 21st April 2010, 18:43

Originally Posted by shrub

he's a typical self righteous citizen in a cage. He indignantly "tut tuts" when he sees us riding our meticulously maintained bikes at 120 kmh while he has a conversation with his wife, enjoys a snack and changes the station on his radio. He doesn't see the bike in his mirror when he pulls out to slowly gring past a car, he doesn't realise that the scooter he has just overtaken is now in the gravel and out of control and he doesn't realise that there is a bike in his blind spot when he changes lanes.

But he never speeds and never drinks and drives, so he is a safe and responsible driver.

i witnessed a scooter rider wearing shorts and t shirt go straight through a red light in dunedins main st today, then 5 mins later he came back weaving between cars totally oblivous to what was happening arround him so not all motorcyclists fit into your view of things

**shrub** · 21st April 2010, 18:47

Originally Posted by JimO

i witnessed a scooter rider wearing shorts and t shirt go straight through a red light in dunedins main st today, then 5 mins later he came back weaving between cars totally oblivous to what was happening arround him so not all motorcyclists fit into your view of things

I'm not talking about "all motorcyclists", I'm talking about the attitude that if you're not speeding you're driving safely and that speed is the biggest problem on the roads. And there are a lot of scooter and bike riders that I'd like to ban from 2 wheels.

**Mudfart** · 21st April 2010, 18:52

i think the paul brown incident highlights the dangers all road vehicles face when people including cops do stupid manouveres on the road.
its just really really unfortunate that it was a motorbike that came over the blind rise and hit the cop car, and not a cage.

**Littleman** · 21st April 2010, 18:53

Originally Posted by miloking

General public is bunch of sheep that are brain washed by TV adds that you and me paid for!! And guys that are saying that it could have been Mr.Browns own fault are just filthy scum!

'General public'

Mate, you sound like a cop.