"85 per cent of all crashes occur below the speed limit"

[avgas]

great now we have cops that are thrill seekers, electric fence pissing speeders and speed cameras that collect for the gov's coffers.
Feel like you in a cartoon.
Hey scumdog, by pissing on a electric fence you dont live dangerously :P .....................or do you????
hang on..............

[Blakamin]

Does anyone know what caused the accident on SH1 in Kapiti on saturday??
was on the road all day and missed the news.... all i know is 2 fatalities on another infamous kapiti intersection (shit, we got heaps of them)
was it speed or incorrect use of a corner??? maybe even a head on???

[scumdog]

great now we have cops that are thrill seekers, electric fence pissing speeders and speed cameras that collect for the gov's coffers.
Feel like you in a cartoon.
Hey scumdog, by pissing on a electric fence you dont live dangerously :P .....................or do you????
hang on..............

APARENTLY.. the trick is to see who can keep the stream going over the live wire the longest, there's NO doubt who can't...

[scumdog]

Then we have something in common.
Lou

'Course sometimes going to work 'the living dangerously' part

[Stevo]

If speeding was so dangerous, why do so many cops do it?

Duh! Heard of "Holier than thou"?

Everything in life has risk though. Clever (not necessarily more intelligent) minimise the risks they take. I live dangerously. I work on a farm. I ride bikes. I race bikes. I swim in swimming pools and rivers. I play sport. I scuba dive............................................ blah blahblah.

Really intelligent people do REALLY DUMB THINGS!!! It is a fact of life. As referring to advertising, I thought the ad in question involving the two cars hitting the truck was pretty simple. I think I am intelexially a brainiack - , (ok not really) but am clever enough to spell intellectually which must count for something.

What gets me are smoking ads telling smokers how much it smells, or what it does to their lungs etc. Yet every smoker knows (unlike some drivers) the results of their actions. Why tell them what they aleady know?????????

Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh

I have a good prov Tax bill due in March. Possibly I should write a letter to our dearest Helen and tell her I won't pay up till they stop wasting tax money :spudwhat:
Besides they've already collected enough in fuel taxes from me this year...

[azaa]

does that mean if we speed were 15% less likely to have a crash????
lol sori guys me bein me

[scumdog]

The main thing is 'the faster you go the bigger the mess' - sometimes that means the eef-wit that is speeding gets pulled over and then it is 'no WOF sir?, no Rego sir? not got your licence on you sir? your tyre is a bit bald sir? etc.
Generally the faster the speed in the built-up area the more of a disaster the vehicle is.

[Jantar]

The message is that when you have an accident, speed relates directly to the net damage incurred.

Not true. The car travelling at the lower speed hit the flat surface on the side of the truck spreading the impact over a large area and minimalising the damage. The faster car hit the sharp rear corner of the truck causing maximum damage. The damage relates directly to the point of impact, not the speed of travel in this instance. I would not make this claim as a general rule, but this IS the way this ad shows it.

[scumdog]

Right Jantar, good point but come this evening I will point out the futility of such argument (as long as your wine supply holds out) but be aware that this advertiment is a as accurate as any, i.e. Mitsubishi, McDonalds etc.

See you tonight eh!!

[Jantar]

Right Jantar, good point but come this evening I will point out the futility of such argument (as long as your wine supply holds out) but be aware that this advertiment is a as accurate as any, i.e. Mitsubishi, McDonalds etc.

See you tonight eh!!

Wine, Bourbon and Coke, or just good old beer....

I'm looking forward to it

[scumdog]

Wine, Bourbon and Coke, or just good old beer....

I'm looking forward to it

You bet!! The losers tomorrow will be those that were too lilly-livered to get their shit to gether and head for the fine accomadation at Springvale Road eh? Make sure your ice/coke supply is unlimited, o.k.?

[spudchucka]

Not true. The car travelling at the lower speed hit the flat surface on the side of the truck spreading the impact over a large area and minimalising the damage. The faster car hit the sharp rear corner of the truck causing maximum damage. The damage relates directly to the point of impact, not the speed of travel in this instance. I would not make this claim as a general rule, but this IS the way this ad shows it.

Dude, I don't give a stuff about ads and I wasn't refering to that ad at all when I wrote that.

I'm simply refering to the physics involved, look at it objectively and you can't deny that speed + sudden impact = big fucken mess. The faster you go, the bigger the mess. Cliche, but oh so true!

[avgas]

why on that add did they both play chicken with a truck?

[James Deuce]

why on that add did they both play chicken with a truck?

Bloody oath - I'd be heading down the road the truck came out of, not standing on my brakes in that, "It's the only way I was shown how to stop a vehicle quickly" method that most kiwis seem to employ. If I had my family in the car, I'd run down the dudes standing on the side of the road on my right in preference to hitting the trucks.

[riffer]

Bloody oath - I'd be heading down the road the truck came out of, not standing on my brakes in that, "It's the only way I was shown how to stop a vehicle quickly" method that most kiwis seem to employ. If I had my family in the car, I'd run down the dudes standing on the side of the road on my right in preference to hitting the trucks.

Oh come on now Jim, then the ad would make no sense whatsoever.

The trouble is, when they indulge in pseudo-intellectual BS to try and prove a point it usually ends up being misleading.

If they told the truth and said the real problem was innapropriate speed for the conditions, you could never police it: "Sorry Officer, I believe my speed was perfectly appropriate for the conditions. I realise the corner advisory sign was 35 km/hr, but I am a better than average driver and it doesn't apply to me."

The only thing you can police is an arbitrary limit.

Anyway, it applies to Australian roads, where the suburban speed limit is 60 km/hr. If there was a policeman there with a Hawk, both would quite possibly be charge for exceeding the limit by 10-20 km/hr.

If both cars were doing 50 km/hr then both would have stopped in time.