"85 per cent of all crashes occur below the speed limit"

[avgas]

Bloody oath - I'd be heading down the road the truck came out of, not standing on my brakes in that, "It's the only way I was shown how to stop a vehicle quickly" method that most kiwis seem to employ. If I had my family in the car, I'd run down the dudes standing on the side of the road on my right in preference to hitting the trucks.

Be a hilarious add...
"Here we have 2 cars, One doing 60, One doing 65..........AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! SWEET JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! CUT CUT!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[avgas]

If both cars were doing 50 km/hr then both would have stopped in time.

I would have to dissagree here, if they were both stupid enough to drive 400m into a parked truck, doing 50 would have slowed the add down.
But all you folks who sit above 55kmh, let this be a lesson - your stupid

[James Deuce]

Be a hilarious add...
"Here we have 2 cars, One doing 60, One doing 65..........AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! SWEET JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! CUT CUT!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Bahahaaa!

I wanna film that.

I'll grab a digital video camera, the boss's XR6 and Jackrat's truck.

Back soon.

[vtec]

The person you hit?



Not much, when you look at the number of single-vehicle motorcycle crashes.

Single vehicle motorcycle crashes includes offroad accidents as well which makes it a very deceptive statistic. The ACC charge in our registration also covers people in motorcycle accidents who don't have to register their off road bikes.

[moko]

Biggest rise in bike accidents in the U.K. is now single riders stuffing up corners on dry Summer days.There`s a big "summer rider" culture here now with guys dusting down the Fireblade after 6 monthes of driving the car then heading for the twisties thinking their name`s Rossi.Used to be that we could defend ourselves because for years it was drivers pulling out of junctions that was the major problem.Now there`s no-one else to blame,these dorks are giving the government plenty of ammo to throw at us,the Transport Minister has actually said he`d love to see bikes banned.Even the bike mags have run articles saying it`s getting stupid and these guys are doing none of us any favours.There was actually a serious effort to ban bikes back in the 80`s,that was dropped but they wanted massive "protectors" fitted on them to protect against side-impact.They finally caved-in under pressure from campaigners but brought out a 125 limited-power law for learners that killed off the popular 250 sector almost over-night.Biggest fatality group now is guys in their 40`s who have either qualified via Direct Access(pass your test on a GS500 and you can straight away ride an R1)or "born-agains" who had a GS750 20 years ago,never ridden since but they get back into it with another 750 Suzuki expecting the same kind of performance and having lost the road sense they had in their bike days.

[gav]

I would have to dissagree here, if they were both stupid enough to drive 400m into a parked truck, doing 50 would have slowed the add down.
But all you folks who sit above 55kmh, let this be a lesson - your stupid

They forgot to state "if you had been travelling at 80km/h you would have passed this truck pulling out, no worries. Therefore its safer to drive faster, as you spend less time on the road"

[James Deuce]

Biggest rise in bike accidents in the U.K. is now single riders stuffing up corners on dry Summer days.There`s a big "summer rider" culture here now with guys dusting down the Fireblade after 6 monthes of driving the car then heading for the twisties thinking their name`s Rossi.Used to be that we could defend ourselves because for years it was drivers pulling out of junctions that was the major problem.

Hey
Hey
HEY

No, sorry you're right; I am a dork.

(slinks back to dork cave)

[Lou Girardin]

Bloody oath - I'd be heading down the road the truck came out of, not standing on my brakes in that, "It's the only way I was shown how to stop a vehicle quickly" method that most kiwis seem to employ. If I had my family in the car, I'd run down the dudes standing on the side of the road on my right in preference to hitting the trucks.

Thats it, using the big round thing in front of you. Makes the car go around corners and helps avoid trucks.
Does Monash know this?

[vtec]

Question. Do the reported single vehicle motorcycle accident numbers include accidents, where say a car pulls out in front of a bike, and crashes without hitting another vehicle, say by riding off the road, hitting a road sign, locking the brakes and losing it? Whether the other driver stops or leaves the scene?

Excellent point bandit, this has accounted for pretty much all of my offs. Not once has a car stopped, and usually I manage to avoid them but come off in the process.

[XP@]

Ok, ok we get the speeding thing.

It seems like most drivers have got the picture now, drivers have slowed down and seem to stick, in the most part to the limit (or what their speedo says is the limit usually about 90kph)

If you watch the news now the majority of accidents involving death or serious injury are reported slightly differently...

"The driver crossed the centerline"

In this type of accident there is often a corner involved and little time for evasive manouvers. Drivers cutting a corners could be doing it for 2 reasons... going in too fast or too lazy. Where there is no corner involved then there is something wrong with the driver (heart attack or similar) or complete lack of concentration (yelling at the kids, on the phone, spilling the coffee), in any of the cases the driver at fault will not be in a position to react much, and if they do the probability is they will over react.

In all but a few cases there is no excuse, to go over the centre line, apart from crap driving.

What are the Police, ACC & government doing about it?
Erecting wire barriers.
Issuing more speeding tickets.

What should they be doing about it?
Better education?
Booking unsafe drivers?

IMHO someone who is actually concentrating on the road and doing 120kmph is a lot safer than someone on a cellphone and driving at 80kmph.

[XP@]

Ok, ok we get the speeding thing.

It seems like most drivers have got the picture now, drivers have slowed down and seem to stick, in the most part to the limit (or what their speedo says is the limit usually about 90kph)

If you watch the news now the majority of accidents involving death or serious injury are reported slightly differently...

"The driver crossed the centerline"

In this type of accident there is often a corner involved and little time for evasive manouvers. Drivers cutting a corners could be doing it for 2 reasons... going in too fast or too lazy. Where there is no corner involved then there is something wrong with the driver (heart attack or similar) or complete lack of concentration (yelling at the kids, on the phone, spilling the coffee), in any of the cases the driver at fault will not be in a position to react much, and if they do the probability is they will over react.

In all but a few cases there is no excuse, to go over the centre line, apart from crap driving.

What are the Police, ACC & government doing about it?
Erecting wire barriers.
Issuing more speeding tickets.

What should they be doing about it?
Better education?
Booking unsafe drivers?

IMHO someone who is actually concentrating on the road and doing 120kmph is a lot safer than someone on a cellphone and driving at 80kmph.

[Redstar]

Paul Swain is no longer the Minister Of Transport it now Pete Hog-eson
do they really all ride Suzuki 800's in India? or 80's?

See I do read the threads

What do I reckon well if everyone was as good as us there would be no need for any limits anywhere, its the Fuckwits who spoil it for everyone and isnt that life in general!

[Drunken Monkey]

Here's something from a Top Gear article:

Canada
In Ontario, Canada's most populous province, speed cameras (usually hidden in vans) were scrapped in 1995 after public anger over them helped the Conservatives win the election, with the provincial premier criticising each device as 'an Orwellian cash machine'. Road deaths fell after the scrapping and have kept falling since, much to opponents' chagrin, we presume.

The whole article here:
http://www.topgear.com/content/featu...orld_Speed/01/

Of course, our LTSA knows better...(where are those /sarcastic html tags when you need them?)

[Blakamin]

Of course, our LTSA knows better...(where are those /sarcastic html tags when you need them?)

here...