Do V-twins have attitude and are inlines boring?

[Marmoot]

Come up to Auckland, bro. So I can borrow yours for a wee bit.

[Little Miss Trouble]

is all in friendly jest...and lots come down to riders abilities not the bike..I dare say swap the r6 and the 848 riders and the same riders would have been in front...

There *may* be some truth in that comment

And charactor is an individal taste...I think mine has more charactor than yours...you think the opposite

This ladies & gentleman is why this arguement is futile, everyone has different taste...

IF I were in the position to fill a garage with bikes - money no object etc I would own several Ducati's, several Trumpy's as well as several IL4's from the various Japanese makers. However, since I didn't even buy a lotto ticket last weekend its rather lucky that I have a bike that I to bits

But if your in Chch in Sept....

Probably not, I guess I'll just have to suck up to the guys at Bayride instead!

[Sable]

Parallel twin piston port 2 strokes have more character than all the engine configurations previously mentioned. Eat it

[Marmoot]

IF I were in the position to fill a garage with bikes - money no object etc

- Ducati 1098 + 848 (Vtwin)
- CBR1000RR 2009 ABS (IL4)
- CBR900RR 1999 light blue colour (IL4)
- VTR1000SP1 Red/Black (Vtwin)
- Suzuki Hayabusa 2005 (IL4)
- Honda Goldwing (Flat6)
- Kawasaki ZX7RR (IL4)
- Ducati Desmosedici (V4)
- NSR500V4 (V4 2-stroke)

in that order
Hmm....I see 3 Ducatis, 4 Hondas, 1 Suzuki and 1 Kawasaki.

[LBD]

And to prove I am not unreasonably too biased...a Brutale 1078 would be on my list

[Marmoot]

I'd rather a KTM supermotard....

[CookMySock]

From a spectators point of view, if you are walking around town then a twin sounds better, it has character. But there is nothing that sounds better than a big four having its neck wrung on the open road. At high revs/speeds twins sound boring IMO.

Agreed, but with a wikid loud zorst on them and they get really violent. The thunder from them goes right through ya. Give it a hard BLAP indoors and it nearly blows the walls off the shed. Nice.

The best thing about twins is you don't have to cane them to have fun. IL4 do sound great at top whack, but you just cant do that everywhere coz you are gunna go to jail.

Steve

[onearmedbandit]

The best thing about twins is you don't have to cane them to have fun. IL4 do sound great at top whack, but you just cant do that everywhere coz you are gunna go to jail.

Steve

Same can be said for IL4's as well however. The torque curve in the pic is my bike, max of 81.4ft/lb at 8000rpm (redline at about 12,200). Granted it is from a thou, but still it's an IL4 that doesn't need to be raped to have fun.

[Gremlin]

Well, lets clarify things. When we are drooling about twins, we're thinking ktm, ducati etc, non-jap :P Had a thou IL4, fun was well into license loss. Thou twin, barely get into license loss, and having more fun than ever!

[LBD]

Big difference to my torque curve...nearly flat from 4K to 10K ...one mad rush, no need to work to stay in the "Zone" (83 foot lb but thats crank, yours is rear wheel ...so yours is bigger than mine)

[Urano]

mmmhhhh....
it's a hard talk.
it's more or less as the "better diesel or gasoline" question...

to me i have to admit that, at the end, i'm probably more on the 4 side. I'm one who use the engine to go and the brake to stop, so the twin's engine brakin really annoy me.
beside that, i ride bikes on the precision, something as "bikes on street, cars on dirt", so i greatly appreciate the smoothness of 4s, and i can handle the "disappointment" of having not so much result in twisting the throttle below rpm.
after all, if i'm going quietly, it's good to have a quiet response, if i need power, i know where to get it.
i understand that all of this is probably the result of the "2 stroke school", and when i used the in line twin (which is actually a little bit more similar to an il4 than a v) i passed all the time trying to get rid of all the twin characteristic...

i only love twin dimensions and frugality: low fuel cons, low plugs costs, less oil...

probably the best solution for me would be the v4, a bit more torque friendly than the inline and narrower...
but i've never tested one, nor a triple. and i'm really curious...

[Toaster]

ive never ridden a twin. but man ducatis sound like they are falling to bits

That's because they are!

[Toaster]

Agreed, but with a wikid loud zorst on them and they get really violent. The thunder from them goes right through ya. Give it a hard BLAP indoors and it nearly blows the walls off the shed. Nice.

The best thing about twins is you don't have to cane them to have fun. IL4 do sound great at top whack, but you just cant do that everywhere coz you are gunna go to jail.

Steve

Agreed. I have had 5 inline 4s and 2 V-Twins over the years I have been riding. Both the Firestorm and M109R had seriously grunty exhausts added and they sounded fabulous much to the neighbours disgust. Both had good low down torque but both are budget bikes one way or another and that was manifest in the finish and feel. Sound certainly begats an aggressive attitude.

The IL4's - all GSX or GSXRs are much smoother, best of undoubtedly being the 09 Hayabusa with aftermarket chimneys.... these sound great when wound up and easily done at open road speed limits or around town with a lower gear selected for the fun and horsepower factor without the fear factor... so in this vein I say IL4s can have just as much fun, legally, as the thumpy V-Twins.

I would love a decent high-end V-Twin with that devine sound again, but it needs to have the balls to thrill after riding a rocketship. In a perfect world, one of each would be great.

[LBD]

That's because they are!

Bollocks...in years gone by there was truth in that, but not today...

Busa huh...there were a few of those that I kept overtaking on the TT2000..... Whenever there was more than one slight bend in the road...

[Toaster]

Bollocks...in years gone by there was truth in that, but not today...

Busa huh...there were a few of those that I kept overtaking on the TT2000..... Whenever there was more than one slight bend in the road...

It was a joke you twit. Get over yourself!