Do I have a leg to stand on?

[Hiflyer]

I check my oil before i start it every time i use it. Mine is practically new and has only done 20k.
Would recommend you check before you start every time you ride.
Bit bewildered as to why you left it unchecked for 4000k to be honest.

Plain forgetfulness I guess. I used to do it on my hyosung but maybe that was the fear of it shitting out on me!! haha

Lesson learned though.


Will using the car oil be damaging the engine? I know that the oil isn't designed for high revving engines like bikes have so I'm not taking it over 6ooorpm where I can, and obviously I'll replace it asap but in the next couple of days should I avoid using the bike???

[Mully]

Will using the car oil be damaging the engine? I know that the oil isn't designed for high revving engines like bikes have so I'm not taking it over 6ooorpm where I can, and obviously I'll replace it asap but in the next couple of days should I avoid using the bike???

Might make your clutch slip - car oils often have friction modifiers in them that play havoc with wet clutches in bikes.

IIRC, someone on here had to pull the clutch out to get all the oil off the plates.

[onearmedbandit]

Decent quality car oil will be fine in it, so don't worry about reving it past 6k lol.

[Hiflyer]

Decent quality car oil will be fine in it, so don't worry about reving it past 6k lol.

Yea that's what I thought, I'm not going to go out and rape it haha it was a good ~$30 for a litre so It's not red stamp oil from the warehouse

[Laava]

Sounds like you had a partial seize from what you describe. You are lucky the bike is running fine. I would be replacing what is in there and filter ASAP and keep a good eye on things.

[nosebleed]

MV Agusta





fkn 10 chrs

[Hiflyer]

MV Agusta





fkn 10 chrs

I don't even know what you're on about mate!!!!!!!

[Hiflyer]

Sounds like you had a partial seize from what you describe. You are lucky the bike is running fine. I would be replacing what is in there and filter ASAP and keep a good eye on things.

Yea that's the concluesion we came to.

I think I've used up my good luck/karma for a while now, 20mtr from a servo, only partial seize, no overly huge damage and only a wee bit of public shaming for not checking my oil!

Live and learn I guess!

[The Pastor]

Plain forgetfulness I guess. I used to do it on my hyosung but maybe that was the fear of it shitting out on me!! haha

Lesson learned though.


Will using the car oil be damaging the engine? I know that the oil isn't designed for high revving engines like bikes have so I'm not taking it over 6ooorpm where I can, and obviously I'll replace it asap but in the next couple of days should I avoid using the bike???

I would drain that oil straight away, car oil will cause your clutch to slip, chances are you only mixed a little bit of it with the bike oil, so you SHOULD be fine.

FYI desiel oil is what you want for bikes, not petrol/car

[onearmedbandit]

I would drain that oil straight away, car oil will cause your clutch to slip,

Depending who you talk too or your source a lot of people say modern car oils are fine for bikes and will cause no clutch slippage whatsoever.

[The Pastor]

Depending who you talk too or your source a lot of people say modern car oils are fine for bikes and will cause no clutch slippage whatsoever.

it made my tf125 slip like a bitch

[aff-man]

Engine could be burning oil rather than leaking. Did you but your hand by the exhaust and rev it and then check for oil spots on your hand?
4000km is a long time for oil in a bike if its leaking into the cylinder. If it had been empty after 100-500km then i'd worry.
Most garages sell oil that says for car and motorcycle use

[Fatt Max]

Well, you need to find out where the oil's going - it's obviously using it somewhere.

Learn the lesson - check your oil more regularly and go on with your life. No-one's to blame.

+1, well said.

Appreciate that it was a stressful event but at the end of the day it really is basic maintenence which we are all rsponsible for as bike owners. We've all made balls ups bike wise and as long as we learn, then life goes on.

Still, thanks for sharing, a reminder to all of us who get a bit complacent I suppose

[scooute]

Definitely something amiss, it should not use that much oil in 4000km. It may be burning a bit of oil on startup that you might not notice, or it could just be slowing burning oil during running, and that you will not notice unless someone else points it out, and even they may not notice. I have a check I do before every ride, tyres, brakes, chain, water level, and oil level. All of that takes less than 2 minutes (incl checking pressures). You should at least get in the habit of checking these things once a week, I just go a little overboard but it's part of my riding routine.

Not overboard, I do the exact same thing rather that than having somthing go wrong like your engine seeze mid corner... Best to check your ride everyday (I do it every time I get on, someone stole my oil cap while I was at the mall one day thank god I noticed before the long treck home!!!) better safe than sorry as they say! good habit to get into saves your life and your wallet
Ride safe

[tigertim20]

You know when you get that feeling that something's wrong or there is something juuust not quite right with the bike when you get on?
Yea I had that last night when the bike bogged down through the gears then cut out......

Well it wasn't me, it was a friend of mine taking my bike to run some errands.
What happened was he was riding along when the bike started "bogging" through the gears like there wasn't enough fuel or something in the engine was sticking.
LUCKILY he was about 20metres from the Fanshawe street Caltex when this happened. After putting $10 of fuel in we tried to start the motor but the starter motor was spinning and spinning but not actually starting the engine.

Now, before I continue to what was wrong it is worth noting that about 4000k's / 3 months ago it had a service done where I paid for a general check over, new brake pads oil change oil filter etc etc.

As time was running on we decided to check the possibility of things going wrong that shouldn't be causing the problem, just to put our minds at rest. Leads were checked, I tried to start it on reserve instead of normal, tried to bump start it. Nothing.

So we checked the oil. The oil was horrendously low, literally maybe 1-2mm of it was showing on the dip stick and that was on a warm engine. And it was dirty as a pig in mud.

Topped up with the most expensive oil I could find in the station, and I'll replace it asap obviously but at least it's running fine now.




Stupid me has lost the receipts from the service, and didn't take photos of the oil residue or anything like that. (At the point I was stressing!)
I'm not going to name the workshop cops that'll just drag, what I hope to be a good discussion, through the shit.


It looks like the oil change and filter weren't actually done!
I plan on going back there and telling them what I believe has happened so that it hopefully doesn't happen to other people and maybe I'll have a nice chat with the people there.
But do I have any right to go back and see if I can get a bit of store credit or a free oil change? I guess the only proof I would have of this is a spooged up oil filter?
Surely they would have some record of me on their computers??

Thanks in advance!

you should be doing oil and filter every 5k, so after 4k, its nearly due anyway, so of course its gunna be dirty. im gunna say no, you have no recourse, and you should (at home, all by yourself) be lubing the chain, and checking ALL fluids, brake, radiator oil etc every 500 - 1000 km anyway.

if you really beleive, even for a minute that your chosen workshop has been dishonest, dont stress or argue, just go to another one from now on.
and make a habbit of doing your own rehular checks of the basics at home