It will be a recent jap import. Often japanese people will buy such a bike and just leave it in the house as an ornament, and riding very very occasionally.Originally Posted by MSTRS
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It will be a recent jap import. Often japanese people will buy such a bike and just leave it in the house as an ornament, and riding very very occasionally.
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I could just possibly be biased, but...
I'd go for a ZZR over a FZR. I can't check out the links at work so I don't know how they compare in terms of prices and condition.
I have a ZZR250 and it is insanely reliable. Given that it's nearly 20 years old, and the abuse it's survived, I'm amazed that it runs. But not only that, it runs well. I rode it wellington - Taupo for a track day on Friday, rode the track on Saturday, and rode it back on the Sunday. It ran without a hitch the whole way and I could still walk the next day.
It's true that it doesn't pull too well up steep hillls, especially above about 80KPH, but it really truly loves corners. Handles brilliantly from about 30KPH on - slower than this it's a bit heavy, especially for a 250. I think my only real gripe with it is that the mirrors are the exact same height as most car mirrors, so when splitting I sometimes pull one or both of them in to avoid clipping people.
Also, ZZRs look so much sexier than FZRs. Hands down.
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Good all round bike - go ZZR
Want a sports bike - go FZR
Many yrs ago a friend had an FZR250 - got the same fuel consumption as my FZR750 - was fun to ride hard, though....
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I belive it my CBR1000 uses little bit less fuel than my GSF400 did (especialy on open road)
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Shit man are you on drugs? The FZR is a mint little bike that will go around any corner you point it at. Never had one try to go straight ahead if you try to turn it......
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I would go the ZZR250 and try flashing $2,000.00 in cash in front of the sellers face....Servicing is easier in the ZZR250..And maybe 20kms differnce in the top speed..
The FZR250 being a 21year old bike claiming to done 11,000kms is abit of a tall claim...(523kms per year WTF!) and at $3,000.00 I wouldnt touch it. ! !
I would also say the ZZR250 is always gonna be a easier sell when it comes to up grade time again..
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Hey Steve, Its entirely possable that the bike is genuine km. We see lots of old low km bikes in Japan. Last month i sold a Ducati M900 1995 with a GENUINE 1480km on it. If the condition matches the mileage (remember to allow for std jap import oxidation on alloy parts and fastners) then the little fizzer will be a fantastic bike. Nothing wrong with the ZZRs either i just find most people outgrow them before they are finished their licence (hmm maybe i should be recomending the ZZRs so i can sell more bikes), while most people get right thru on a sports 250 before they trade out of it.
Both are reliable, fun, and realitively inexpencive to maintain. Tyre costs will be similar, as will most other parts. The FZR will use more gas if you hammer it but it will also be more fun once you get a bit of riding time.
Last edited by R1madness; 13th May 2010 at 10:10. Reason: another thought
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Upright bikes are easier for learners. There is less weight on the bars, bar pressure is lower, bike tends to tip in automatically, easier to steer with the arse, less discipline required, etc etc.
Low-bar bikes require a firm push on the bars to corner, or they simply won't, which is where a lot of learners come unstuck. This is good training for those so-inclined, but they better be ahead of the bike or else... Also, learners quickly learn not to lean on the bars, especially when they discover the bike wants to dive deeply into the corner when using a larger angle of lean - I believe "twitchy as fuck" is the term used.
Upright bikes = simple. Low-bar sport bikes = complex.
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"I am a licenced motorcycle instructor, I agree with dangerousbastard, no point in repeating what he said."
"read what Steve says. He's right."
"What Steve said pretty much summed it up."
"I did axactly as you said and it worked...!!"
"Wow, Great advise there DB."
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Hyo gt250r is pretty much a sports bike position and it was a heck of a lot easy to get into corners than my upright gpx!
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The fact is that sports bikes have a lean angle to make sure weight is more balanced 50/50 for better crnering. Else sports bikes would not have the lean at all (since it is uncomfortable). Sorts bikes generealy turn in sharper because they have steering geometry that is designed to do so. And they have better suspension since high speed cornering is expected and designed for. This is why they are usually quite stable in corners.
In fact they should be better everywhere except comfort and fuel usage.
Try the CBR 250RR - you will never look back. Not too bad for comfort either. And better build quality.
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speaking from personal experience, id go for the zzr over those two. my experience of IL4 yamaha 250's is that they are extremely unreliable. others may have had a differnt experience. DB is pissing on about how awesome inlines are blah blah, but he rides a twin, and i dunno if hes ever even owned an inline...
anyway, to the point, if you want inline 4, Id go for a honda, then a kwak..... yammy would be at the bottom of my list, but hey thats just me.
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