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    Not the site that I am looking for. Go too

    http://www.nsc.org/library/shelf/inincell.htm





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    These data demonstrate that the phone conversation itself resulted in significant slowing in the response to simulated traffic signals, as well as an increase in the likelihood of missing these signals. Moreover, the fact that hand-held and hands-free cell phones resulted in equivalent dual-task deficits indicates that the interference was not due to peripheral factors such as holding the phone while conversing. These findings also rule out interpretations that attribute the deficits associated with a cell phone conversation to simply attending to verbal material, because dual-task deficits were not observed in the book-on-tape control. Active engagement in the cell phone conversation appears to be necessary to produce the observed dual-task interference.

    The principal findings for this experiment are that: (a) SPs that engaged in cell phone conversations missed twice as many simulated traffic signals as when they were not talking on the cell phone, (b) SPs took longer to react to those signals that they did detect, and (c) these deficits were equivalent for both hand-held and hands-free cell phone users.

    In sum, we found that conversing on either a hand-held or hands-free cell phone led to significant decrements in simulated driving performance. We suggest that the cellular phone use disrupts performance by diverting attention to an engaging cognitive context other than the one immediately associated with driving.

    Our data suggest that legislative initiatives that restrict hand-held devices but permit hands-free devices are not likely to reduce interference from the phone conversation, because the interference is, in this case, due to central attentional processes.

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    This last sentance is as close as I can find that confirms the findings on the other site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed
    sometimes *my wife* will phone me just to hear my voice!
    Your voice is that good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazy Steve
    Really im not..

    I am however sori for the way I acted and things that I have said prevoiusly..

    Please give me a second chance??

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    This

    Q. Is talking on a cell phone any worse than having a conversation with someone in the car?
    A.Any activity a driver engages while driving has the potential to distract the driver from the primary task of driving. Some research findings comparing cell phone use to passenger conversations while driving, show each to be equally risky, while others show cell phone use to be more risky. A significant difference between the two is the fact that a passenger can monitor the driving situation along with the driver and pause for, or alert the driver to, potential hazards, whereas a person on the other end of the phone line is unaware of the roadway situation.

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    http://doityourself.com/auto/drivingcellphoneuse.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed
    ........sometimes *my wife* will phone me just to hear my voice!
    Is that phone sex???
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    I'm the other way around: my conversation suffers in relation to the amount of concentration I need for the type of driving I'm doing at the time.

    A bit of fast driving sees my words dry up completely. (I suppose that's why motorbikes are safer - you can't yap away all day!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indiana_Jones
    I want a handsfree type kit, like Ice Cube in torque
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder
    A passanger can see when the driver needs to concentrat on what they are doing or will make allowences for the driver to stop comminicating so that they can concentrate on the road environment.
    Only sometimes is that the case though, you can't generalise that statement. There are many situations where passengers have absolutely no idea that the driver needs them to quiet down and let him concentrate. Passengers such as children, and those who are under the influence are often oblivious to the drivers need for them to shut up!

    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder
    Secondly a driver talking on a cellphone even with a drivers kit is cominicating in excactly the same way as if they were not driving at all.
    You really believe that? So if I'm driving and talking on my cell phone at the same time my method of communicating is as if I wasn't even in my car driving? I thought it was called 'multi-tasking'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago = Viagra
    Is that phone sex???
    You've never been in love huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed
    Only sometimes is that the case though, you can't generalise that statement. There are many situations where passengers have absolutely no idea that the driver needs them to quiet down and let him concentrate. Passengers such as children, and those who are under the influence are often oblivious to the drivers need for them to shut up!

    You really believe that? So if I'm driving and talking on my cell phone at the same time my method of communicating is as if I wasn't even in my car driving? I thought it was called 'multi-tasking'?
    We suggest that the cellular phone use disrupts performance by diverting attention to an engaging cognitive context other than the one immediately associated with driving.

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    Not my arguments Zed but others based on their research. Go find some other research that prooves that you can multi task as efficiently as single tasking. Otherwise don't wast my time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zed
    You've never been in love huh?
    Oh, definately, but when the love was that new and exciting, phones had a rotary dial thingy.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Virago = Viagra
    Oh, definately, but when the love was that new and exciting, phones had a rotary dial thingy.........
    Yes I remember those days. Everything went round and round. Radio dials tuning, volumn etc. I've always said that the world fucked up when it switched from dials to push buttons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skyryder
    Not my arguments Zed but others based on their research. Go find some other research that prooves that you can multi task as efficiently as single tasking. Otherwise don't wast my time.
    I see you havn't changed. You just ruined what was becoming a worthwhile debate - there was no need to be rude!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biff
    Ms Biff.........likes the fact that I 'apparently' make strange noises when I go around tight bends. Noises she's heard twice before in her life. Once during conception of our son, the other during conception of our daughter....
    And on those occasions, where exactly were the tight bends that you were going around?
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