Where do you want to see motorcycling heading?

[Katman]

Far too many motorcyclists are in it for the image rather than the experience.

[bogan]

Read it as you will.

Well if thats the case then,

[Digitdion]

Far too many motorcyclists are in it for the image rather than the experience.

Come on mate...... Whats your image them?
Then we will know if we can actually take you seriously as A POLITCAL FORCE!

[MadDuck]

Far too many motorcyclists are in it for the image rather than the experience.

Yes you are so right. I take it all back.

The only reason I ride a motorbike is because I look cool!

[Coldrider]

Why don't they open their mouths then?

empty cans make the most noise.

[Katman]

Come on mate...... Whats your image them?
Then we will know if we can actually take you seriously as A POLITCAL FORCE!

The fact that you need to ask it shows you for the halfwit you are.

I'll gladly stand up and say that Motorcycling has an inherent problem. It's up to us all to seek the solution.

[Digitdion]

The fact that you need to ask it shows you for the halfwit you are.

You would make a blooday good politition( is that how you spell it) mate. Did you actually answer the question. Perhaps you could form an alliance and become PM of Great Britain. Show us what you are really made of. None of this bullshit tit for tat. We are having a prod at you because we are fascinated by you.Why there is smoke there is fire they say? Are you all smoke brother? I still have no bloody idea what you are actually trying to point out to us. Get to the point brother, get rid of the mumbo jumbo that you started this thread with. I will not vote for you!

[MadDuck]

I'll gladly stand up and say that Motorcycling has an inherent problem. It's up to us all to seek the solution.

So the problem is?
And the answer is?
What are you going to do about #1 and #2?

[CookMySock]

I'd like to see Motorcycling grow up.

Why?

Why not just go ride your own bike? What other people do doesn't affect you, and what you do doesn't affect them.

Go find something interesting to make, and forget about changing people.


Steve

[Berries]

Me, I'd like to see Motorcycling entice the numbers to it's fold that it truly deserves.

I'd like to see the Old Guard accept the fact that an increase in motorcycling numbers is not going to affect their 'hard man' image.

I'd like to see new motorcyclists, who desire to one day be the Old Guard, accept that you'll only get there by surviving.

I'd like to see Motorcycling attract the numbers required to become a political force.

I'd like motorcyclists to realise that the only way that we have a chance of becoming a political force is by becoming an accepted part of society.

I'd like to see Motorcycling grow up.

I'd like to ride my bike whenever I want, however I want. Frankly, everything else is irrelevant to me. I don't care whether more people take it up. I don't care if the numbers dwindle. I don't care about bikers rights. I don't care what anyone else thinks about my riding style, attitude, or clothing. A bike is my preferred mode of transport. And in the end that is all it is, a mode of transport.

[muzz]

Katman get back on your dinosuar and ride through the gates of delirium and stop acting totally weird .

[kave]

So the problem is?
And the answer is?
What are you going to do about #1 and #2?

As far as I can see, Katman thinks the problem is reckless motorcyclists are bad P.R. His solution is to keep nagging at people on Kiwibiker hoping that they will change their hooligan ways. Although his "broken record" approach gets a little annoying you have to admire his persistance and single-mindedness. Everyone has their own perspectives and should be free to act on them as they wish. I would not like to see Jehovah's Witnesses banned from knocking on my door and trying to convert me, and Katman is the Kiwibiker equivalent of a Jehovah's Witness. Nope, I dont reckon the end is nigh Katman, but I would be a little dissapointed if you stopped preaching it.

Personally I dont think that there is a problem. I ride a motorcycle and enjoy doing it. I dont care where motorcycling is headed. To be honest I dont even care where my motorbike is headed so long as the roads are twisty and I'm riding.

[Digitdion]

As far as I can see, Katman thinks the problem is reckless motorcyclists are bad P.R. His solution is to keep nagging at people on Kiwibiker hoping that they will change their hooligan ways. Although his "broken record" approach gets a little annoying you have to admire his persistance and single-mindedness. Everyone has their own perspectives and should be free to act on them as they wish. I would not like to see Jehovah's Witnesses banned from knocking on my door and trying to convert me, and Katman is the Kiwibiker equivalent of a Jehovah's Witness. Nope, I dont reckon the end is nigh Katman, but I would be a little dissapointed if you stopped preaching it.

Personally I dont think that there is a problem. I ride a motorcycle and enjoy doing it. I dont care where motorcycling is headed. To be honest I dont even care where my motorbike is headed so long as the roads are twisty and I'm riding.

he is not persistent. Where has he been for the last 45 odd minutes?

[scooute]

maybe the problem is the media holds too much weight around here and we should all be able to do/have what we want as long as it doesnt endanger anyone elses right to do/have what they want. Instead of the current system of the media turning every little thing into a big deal and then people feel empowered to whip up a political frenzy? there was a day where the media reported what was happening without the political view, now portions of society feed off it the media catch wind of it and report on that and so it grows. I thought politics were supposed to bring about what the people want in a civil manner not to tie us down...? thats IMO of course I think everything has its place, even politics theyve just forgotten where that place is... to better things for all!

[EJK]

Me, I'd like to see Motorcycling entice the numbers to it's fold that it truly deserves.

I'd like to see the Old Guard accept the fact that an increase in motorcycling numbers is not going to affect their 'hard man' image.

I'd like to see new motorcyclists, who desire to one day be the Old Guard, accept that you'll only get there by surviving.

I'd like to see Motorcycling attract the numbers required to become a political force.

I'd like motorcyclists to realise that the only way that we have a chance of becoming a political force is by becoming an accepted part of society.

I'd like to see Motorcycling grow up.

Wow you speak as if Motorcyclists are like another country.