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You've said mostly commuting. I'd recommend an upright (single handlebar or raised clip-ons above the seat) bike.
Other reasons not to choose a full on sports bike is if you have a big gut or weak torso / tummy muscles to help keep the weight off your wrists at commuting speeds. Depends also on how long you are commuting for timewise per day whether the wrist weight will cause problems.
Originally Posted by FlangMaster
The best position is when you are straight up and she is bent over .....
Test ride one and decide (bike or girl, or boy in these enlightened days)
The best compromise i have ridden to date was an Aprilia Tuono. All the full on sports bike i have ridden tie me in knots but the tuono was almost comfortable & still encouraged me to climb around on it. I love sportbike performance & handling but they are agony on my knees, neck & wrists. a mate recently recommended I have a blast on a new Z1000, reckoning i would get the best of both worlds. Im very keen to try a s'triple.
Naked big for me all the way now,took the new BMW 1000RR for a ride the other day,very cool machine, hadn't ridden an inline 4 for ages/years, most impressive. When I got back on the Streetfighter, it was like yeah baby this is the riding position for me. The SF is alot more forward bias than my last bike, the KTM Super Duke which has a far more upright riding position. At the end of the day it's what floats really.
As mad as a spider, and twice as hairy !
ive been thinking the same things about this topic, im currently thinking a z1000 with clipons to make it more sporty, although ive heard conflicting stories about the hp range 106-135. for my bike when i get my full i dont want to go over 120hp, although i have also heard one guy say the ZX-6R is 130!. tho the streetfighter looks awesome at 155hp!. I think Im looking at second hand, about 2004, likely naked, upright, that I am going to mod a bit to give the sports handling and feel, and look of a cafe racer, and increase grunt over time.
Poosibly an MV augusta 750 2004?. You really just gotta test all the bikes, but always remember they can be modded too, to feel and look better.
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I'd say no. You should be able to dick with your seating position (esp pegs) so that your legs and 'core' support you. It is best to ride in such a way that you only have the lightest connection to the bars. That way you can feel what is going on.
I ride very much on the balls of my feet and support myself with my lower legs. If it gets bumpy I can unload my arse a bit and let the bike do its thing. For sure the wind over 90k gives more support in the chest region.
Since I ride for pure pleasure, I love the feleing of climbing on and crouching. If I wanted practical I'd take the car.
As for too much power - you're the guy at the controls. The throttle works in two directions...
Just chiming into say that the old shape Yamaha R6S (2003 - 2008) pretty much covers everything well.. I use it for commuting, weekend warrioring, touring, track days @ Manfeild and grocery shopping with a hefty hiking pack. The rake of the bars is not steep at all.
At the end of the day, just buy a sprots bike and shove some heli-bars or equivalent on it if you want the straight up seat position. F1 Engineering in Hamilton do a roaring trade in stuff like this..
Second this. I used to have an FZR250, and currently have a naked (upright) Hyo GT250. For me the FZR was a much more comfortable bike. As a result, I'm now on the lookout for a wrecked GT250R so I can pillage the tri clamp, clip-ons and pegs etc in order to give me the riding position that suits me best.
Edit: I Also sleep foetal.
Have a look at the Suzuki Bandits. They are an upright model. I have an '05 650 Bandit commuter bike and an '09 1250 for long-distance.
The 650 runs around 80 horses .. and I had a ball on it on Hampton Downs a few months ago ... leaving VTRs in my dust and playing with CBR600s (I blame the riders not the bikes) and scrapping my toes in corners at more than 120 klicks ... it is sweet and smooth at low speed and a missile at high speed. Peak horses is around 9,500 revs .. which is close to 180 klicks in top gear ... and tops out at 12,000 rpm ... on the 650 I have passed an SV1000 in a corner at more than 200 klicks (no wonder I don't have a licence right now ...)
I have done 873 klicks in an 11-hour round trip on the 1250, and did it comfortably. It will sit in town at 50 klicks in top gear, purring along gently, and go past 230 on the clock on the open road (yeah .. they took my licence off me, I know ...) I played with a ZX1400 ... until I had 230 klicks on the clock and he opened the throttle and disappeared over the horizon ...
The older 600/1200 range is very good . the newer 650/1250 range is even better ...
I'd recommend Bandits ... as someone said in another forum ... "A Bandit is a bike no-one wants - until a mate gets one .."
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But...but....how do you sleep on your bike? I always try to stay awake...shit, I must be missing something here...
On a more serious note, I much prefer the crouched forward position - it's much easier to leap off as the bike rockets over the edge of the cliff...
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